Corporations and businesses don't create jobs...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k
if you like your plan you can keep it...THIS IS NOT GOV RUN HEALTH care...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D74ZO082G8Q
Corporations and businesses don't create jobs...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k
if you like your plan you can keep it...THIS IS NOT GOV RUN HEALTH care...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D74ZO082G8Q
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
She's a peach isn't she?
The lemmings are lined up, practically salivating to be her fools.
Sure Ima vote for her, we need another Failed ****ing social experiment!
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If God wanted Men to look women in the eyes, He wouldnt have gave em Boobs !
Words are cheap. She and her husband are both bought and paid for by big banks and corporations. Go back and review under which administration the big banks were really unleashed to reap windfall profits.
Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.
I just assume you're referring to our current state superintendent. No worries, we already ousted her in the primary. Alas, she gets to stick around till the next one's elected in. I know it can be confusing, but her time's nearly up. Stop trying to dump water on her; Wizard of Oz is a fairy taleso you want to vote for this witch?
Ukraine: Not Our Fight.
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Not only the same universe, they are in the same dirty line of work.
Rand has at least some of the time claimed to be against our foreign adventurism. That is all. I'd really like not to have to choose between Hillary and Rand Paul.
So with my luck that will be the 2016 race.
Ukraine: Not Our Fight.
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Ukraine: Not Our Fight.
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I think foreign policy is pretty d@#m important, though certainly not the only thing. Our founding fathers were wise beyond our pale ken in warning us against foreign intervention. Foreign wars and standing armies had always led and would always lead to tyranny, they warned us.
And so they have.
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I couldn't say I was absolutely non interventionist but I would like it greatly reduced and for us to be a whole lot smarter about those rare occasions where intervention might be necessary.
Beyond that issue you have a self declared socialist, a far lefty and a libertarian (mostly)...
Sander's "socialist" self-label doesn't scare me. If I thought he had any inkling of nationalizing the means of production I would change my mind, but I don't think he really intenda anything like that. I will cop to not researching him a lot on that.
I am (mostly) a "lefty."
I agree with libertarians on issues of personal freedom.
I disagree when they scale that concept up to giving corporations free reign over the rest of us. They use phrases like "by force of arms" when talking about government coercion of behavior. The fault in their logic is that mass economic power also enables coercion, in this case by the monopoly or oligopoly.
So, a libertarian (mostly) is worth considering if the other choice was Hillary, who voted for Iraq 2.0, AND who, as astute observer Fan pointed out, is in bed with the Wall Street giant banks and investment companies.
PS - I am not absolutely non-interventionist either. I can justify three of our wars: the Revolution, the Civil War, and WWII (although it wouldn't have been a thing without WWI which was NOT justified). BTW, "my side" won all three of those without the need for large standing armies.
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I don't want to have to vote for someone in the hopes that he/she will be "shackled" by a more conservative congress (even if that means lefty congressmen that are to the right of sanders or even warren) to keep him/her from pursuing socialist economic policies. It may be the reality but certainly not a choice I would want to have to make.
I hate to label myself as a fiscal conservative, social liberal because that just depends on whose political spectrum you use. But I'm probably closer to that description than other generalizations.
I don't think corps should have free reign but I generally favor pro business positions. However, I don't think Wall Street should get a pass on fiscal improprieties nor do I think that corporations/businesses should dictate our border security or citizenry...particularly at tax payer expense. I am not a fan of the US Chamber of Commerce.
I can agree with 2 of your wars but strongly disagree about WWI as to our intervention...but maybe we have already had that discussion. Nonetheless, there is truth that the heavy handed armistice agreement was a partial cause to WWII. The Civil War? The "War of Northern Aggression"...heh heh...I just had to throw that in there. From a preservation of the Union perspective that war would be justified.
We've had other "interventions" that were correct...like Tripoli and the Barbary Wars for one. But, like many Americans, I feel the title and unwanted responsibility of being the world's police force illustrates a dated and costly foreign policy.
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That's funny, because if I were to vote for Rand Paul, I would have to use similar logic: he can't change the whole economic system by himself, but as president he would be in the most powerful position to keep us out of war.
That is, if any president really has freedom of action if the powers that be want a war.
Ukraine: Not Our Fight.
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How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!