this time in a high school in Marysville, WA...2 dead (including the shooter)
and four wounded, three listed as critical...CNN is covering...
this time in a high school in Marysville, WA...2 dead (including the shooter)
and four wounded, three listed as critical...CNN is covering...
Is anyone tired of this? I am not a gun owner. I am in full support of gun ownership but I would love to hear from gun owners on what your solution would be to prevent this or do you feel your rights to ownership trump innocent lives being lost. I am not trolling on this I would like to hear some thoughts...
Guns isn't the problem. It's crazy *** kids
I heard that time and time again. Should the parents be held responsible?Originally Posted by mojorisen2014
So that's it? Guns aren't the problem crazy *** kids are the problem?
No disrespect intended but that sounds like a cop out....
I'm a gun owner (and a father), and I'm equally tired of this **** happening.
First, (and I'm repeating what you've heard) Guns are not the problem. Look no further back than yesterday, in Canada. Crazy people are the problem, and a lot of that is on the parents (in these school shootings).
I live in Colorado, and was living here when Columbine happened. At the time, I worked about a block from the school and knew many people (both students and families) that were affected. It didn't take long to realize that the parents of the two shooters had little, to no involvement in their children's lives. The entire plot originated, was planned, staged and eventually executed from one of the shooter's basements. This all happened under the nose of the parents. I'm sorry, but if you don't know what your kids are involved in, especially in high school, you're a bad parent. Had one of the four parents taken any time to connect with the shooters, they would have realized pretty quickly that something was off. That brings me to my second point...
The mental health care system in this country is terrible. I don't know how to fix it (or even begin to fix it), but if you look back at every one of these school shootings, it's clear that the shooters were very disturbed, and even in the cases when someone knew (the Aurora Theater Shooting), no action was taken. It's almost a "it's not my problem, someone else will take care of it" issue.
The vast majority of law abiding gun owners in this country aren't the problem. The guns aren't the problem. Bad parenting, and a poor mental health system are, at the very least, a part of the problem.
"The vast majority of law abiding gun owners in this country aren't the problem. The guns aren't the problem. Bad parenting, and a poor mental health system are, at the very least, a part of the problem."
Everything you said hits home. Should parents be held responsible when their kid goes off?
Prayers for the families of those lost.
Bazinga
Its an Instant world we live in now. I think a Good portion of the blame should land square on the back of the news media. Its a Many edged sword. Depriving any group of their rights for the safty of a few is insane where do we stop that? People Hijacked planes and Killed thousands I know lets just stop people from gettin on planes
There is NO cure for crazymotherfu*keritis. And Yes if the Kid is under 18 and living at Home Hold the Parents equally responsible. Ya have Kids that are sick in the Head you best be Locking yer guns up its that simple.
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If God wanted Men to look women in the eyes, He wouldnt have gave em Boobs !
This.
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If God wanted Men to look women in the eyes, He wouldnt have gave em Boobs !
pretty much. I don't recall school shootings growing up in the 80's and I'm pretty sure America had guns way back then.I heard that time and time again. Should the parents be held responsible?
So that's it? Guns aren't the problem crazy *** kids are the problem?
No disrespect intended but that sounds like a cop out....
Heh, in the 60s we even carried concealed water pistols LOL
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If God wanted Men to look women in the eyes, He wouldnt have gave em Boobs !
Lotsa shat went south after the 60's
Normally, I find the media is reasonably fair in reporting SOME of this stuff...but I
listened closely to CNN for almost 2 1/2 hours..the idiot named Blitzer conducted one
of the most crappy interviews of a teenager that I have ever heard. He put words in
this impressionable girl's mouth...inaccurate ones, I might add...just so irresponsible.
I don't hold with the MSM media stuff, especially in light of "fair and balanced" gospel
from the Murdoch boys, but, I think Vet might have said it just right with "the backs
of the media"...at least CNN, in this case. They rushed to put police on the air that
had NOTHING to add, "I don't know", " I'll have that for you at five" and so on...all
just trying to be first! So many contradictions, it's no wonder there's confusion!
After all that, so much hurt for the families...may God bless...!
Thats my point bro, we used to have the Huntley/ Brinkley report. they used Integrity not sensationalism
There are now so many staitions and so manu reporters tryin to ONE up the other. Seems the Kids are imitating them in trying to out Crazy the last crazy kid .
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If God wanted Men to look women in the eyes, He wouldnt have gave em Boobs !
Yes, although I'm not sure to what extent. It would probably have to vary on a case by case basis.
Just yesterday, a hatchet welding idiot in NYC attacked two NYC police officers. One is in critical condition. The point being...if it's not guns, it'll be something else. I also recall a college kid killing his dad (who was a professor) with a bow and arrow. Even if there were no guns, these things would continue to happen.
ummm...I'd say 99.999% of them...vast majority doesn't do justice.
I own guns, I'm a teacher, I have kids....
The horror stories of how some kids are being raised that I could tell you....parents are responsible. The societal problem of "responsibility" is at an all-time high...IMHO. It's never "my" fault....
I also agree the mental health care system....and child welfare is totally a joke.
Guns don't kill people...PEOPLE kill people.
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
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How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
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