K-State loss/game thoughts

[aurorasooner]

I think Heupel's sister is married to Boren's son. But I don't know and don't really GAS.

[Snrinhouston]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like at least half of the teams on that list have NEVER won a national championship. Ever.

What matters is what those teams are doing NOW. Bob's NC was 14 years ago. So far in the past that it should have NO relevance about his current capacity to compete for another NC.

[Snrinhouston]

Ok, so you would be happier with:

Patterson .583
Briles .579
Snyder .666 going into this game
Saban .750
Freeze .689
Mullen .600
Malzahn .813
Helfrich .842
Stoops .802

The two coaches who have won more of their games than Stoops have a combined 5 years of coaching behind them. Sorry, I don't see anyone on this list I'd rather have as our head coach.

The historical records of those coaches is irrelevant to their value NOW. How important is our Sugar Bowl victory over Bama right NOW?????

Oklahoma Football has been (and in my opinion should be) about regularly competing for National Championships. Do you honestly think Stoops and Co. will have OU in the playoff anytime soon (next four years)? I don't.

[soonergirlNeugene]

What matters is what those teams are doing NOW. Bob's NC was 14 years ago. So far in the past that it should have NO relevance about his current capacity to compete for another NC.

So basically you're saying that you're willing to go through a decade or more of mediocrity so long as we win it again. We all know we won't get to keep Stoops forever, but I would rather have a coach that keeps us at a consistently high level and keeps giving us chances to get it than roll the dice on a coach - or more likely, series of coaches - on the off-chance that we might find one that could bring in the next one. I still believe Stoops is the best chance for our next national championship. Clearly you disagree, but I'm glad you're in the minority here.

[Sooner8th]

Ok, so you would be happier with:

Patterson .583
Briles .579
Snyder .666 going into this game
Saban .750
Freeze .689
Mullen .600
Malzahn .813
Helfrich .842
Stoops .802

The two coaches who have won more of their games than Stoops have a combined 5 years of coaching behind them. Sorry, I don't see anyone on this list I'd rather have as our head coach.

Yes, "big game" has a great winning percentage, but we couldn't win the big game for a number of years and now we are losing to teams we should beat and all he keeps talking about conference championships, conference championships. I want him to say the truth, we have a huge problem on defense. 107, before the game today, in pass defense. Then I want him to fix it. I am not being paid, what is it now $4m a year to fix it, he is.

[kenth68]

I'm just wondering, which pop star blew Honeycutt's, um, confidence.

[Eielson]

What matters is what those teams are doing NOW. Bob's NC was 14 years ago. So far in the past that it should have NO relevance about his current capacity to compete for another NC.

Yeah, it's been 14 years. How long has it been since TCU won one? Baylor? Ole Miss? K-State? MSU? Oregon?

[Snrinhouston]

So basically you're saying that you're willing to go through a decade or more of mediocrity so long as we win it again. We all know we won't get to keep Stoops forever, but I would rather have a coach that keeps us at a consistently high level and keeps giving us chances to get it than roll the dice on a coach - or more likely, series of coaches - on the off-chance that we might find one that could bring in the next one. I still believe Stoops is the best chance for our next national championship. Clearly you disagree, but I'm glad you're in the minority here.

Wow, you have really drank the Stoops Kool-Aid. He's not been close to getting into the NC game for 6 years now. NOT EVEN CLOSE. What in the world could make you think he is the best chance for another NC? What's the FACTUAL evidence? Including this year, the last 15 National Championships will have been won by coaches NOT named Stoops. You REALLY need to put the Blake years behind you.

[SoonerorLater]

Yeah, it's been 14 years. How long has it been since TCU won one? Baylor? Ole Miss? K-State? MSU? Oregon?

Yep and you can ask Michigan, Nebraska, Tennessee Fans about trying to replace long term winning coaches.

[Snrinhouston]

Yep and you can ask Michigan, Nebraska, Tennessee Fans about trying to replace long term winning coaches.

Again, Administration MATTERS. It's up to a University President and Athletic Director to choose a worthy replacement. Is it an exacting science? Of course not.

[birddog]

Yep and you can ask Michigan, Nebraska, Tennessee Fans about trying to replace long term winning coaches.

Who?

[Curly Bill]

Wow, you have really drank the Stoops Kool-Aid. He's not been close to getting into the NC game for 6 years now. NOT EVEN CLOSE. What in the world could make you think he is the best chance for another NC? What's the FACTUAL evidence? Including this year, the last 15 National Championships will have been won by coaches NOT named Stoops. You REALLY need to put the Blake years behind you.

The Kool Aid drinkers can't do it. They are under the impression that if we got rid of Stoops we automatically have to bring Blake back to replace him.

[sendbaht]

we lost...hurts.....now lets watch a few others lose and man/women up and get ready for Iowa State....We are lucky to have both coach Stoops...

[rock on sooner]

Wow, in between Srinhouston's bad grammar and Sooner8th's general nut stuff,
I'm guessing that OU should just discontinue football and just fade away. Talk
about bandwagon jumpers....Geez,...so we don't do it this year. I still like our
chances going forward (even this year, good bowl, strong recruiting) so all you jerks
can just go fly a kite. JMO...

[8timechamps]

Really? You aren't concerned about what Stoops is paid, considering what he delivers? If you paid Five Star Prices for a Three Star meal, that wouldn't concern you?

Sure there is plenty of blame between players and coaches. But it starts with Bob and ends with Bob.

So I simply ask. Do you have any faith that OU will seriously contend for another NC within the next 5 years if Stoops remains coach?

Nope. Not concerned even a little bit.

I could go into a long, detailed explanation about how good Stoops has been since his arrival, but I'm sure you're aware of those facts. If you are concerned about Bob's salary, and don't think the product is up to snuff, then about the only thing I can offer in advice is "don't go to the games". Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you.

Yes, I have faith we'll be in the hunt for another NC within the next 5 years. And it's not "if" Stoops remains...he's going nowhere.

[Curly Bill]

Nope. Not concerned even a little bit.

I could go into a long, detailed explanation about how good Stoops has been since his arrival, but I'm sure you're aware of those facts. If you are concerned about Bob's salary, and don't think the product is up to snuff, then about the only thing I can offer in advice is "don't go to the games". Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you.

Yes, I have faith we'll be in the hunt for another NC within the next 5 years. And it's not "if" Stoops remains...he's going nowhere.

Wager?

[BoulderSooner79]

Bob Stoops is not paid $5m+ per year; it's the HC of the Sooners that gets paid that much. I suspect it will stay that way unless OU decides to deemphasis football.

[8timechamps]

Wager?

Sure.

[Curly Bill]

Bob Stoops is not paid $5m+ per year; it's the HC of the Sooners that gets paid that much. I suspect it will stay that wayunless OU decides to deemphasis football.

Are you sure we HAVEN'T done that? Bahahahahahahaha!!!

[Curly Bill]

Sure.

What does "being in the hunt entail?"