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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by achiro View Post
    Several of the late audibles on first down ended up being a handoff to Perine over tackle for no gain. Explain that to me.
    Explain what part of it? What the initial call was? No idea. Why we failed to get any gain? well that we can do with gifs.

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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerorLater View Post
    How can (or should) this be a problem? Don't these guys need to be on the same page with regard to substitutions? Shouldn't play calls be tailored to the personnel on the field to utilize their strengths?
    You would think, but in every single interview, Cale has said that he controls the substitution without input from any other coach.

    1. You put in a player, the defense calls to the strengths of that player. The defense is going to have varying effectiveness against various players.
    2. You'd think, but I think they are so invested in what they are doing that they don't really think about it. One of the weird things about coaching is that some people are totally oblivious to momentum.
    3. We do. The problem isn't us calling to a player's strengths, it is whether the player's strengths vs the defense net us yards. That is where we got killed against TCU. When Ross came in, they knew EXACTLY what we were going to do and called D's to stop it.

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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Is Cody Thomas still injured? Isn't he number two on the depth chart right now?

    Can't he hand the ball off on first down and throw better passes on second and third?

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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by jkm, the stolen pifwafwi View Post
    1. I agree with you that if the QB can not throw the staple route in our offense then we need a different QB.
    2. In the spring there was only one QB who COULD throw the slant - Baker Mayfield
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    Disagree. Watch the spring game film again. Cody Thomas's first throw his arm is hit by a D-lineman. He then threw the next 8 balls and hit the receivers perfectly in stride, back shoulder or between the #'s.

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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by beached_sooner View Post
    Is Cody Hanson still injured? Isn't he number two on the depth chart right now?

    Can't he hand the ball off on first down and throw better passes on second and third?
    He's behind Jake Fletcher and Patrick Sills....so...

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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by jkm, the stolen pifwafwi View Post
    Our weaknesses are:

    1. QB
    2. WR
    3. OG
    4. TE

    So it lies with those coaches.

    1. Josh has really only recruited one all big 12 QB at this point (since Bradford was Chuck Long convincing the staff) and that is the much beloved Landry Jones.
    2. I always find it hard to fault a coach for graduating dynamic seniors and not having much in the cupboard, but our WR recruiting has sucked outside of transfers and jucos.
    3. No idea what is going on here, we have JRs and SRs here
    4. Not having a good TE here is just bad. Heck John Blake had good TEs.
    That's a long list that basically says we are not a good offensive team. It also implies it's not fixable anytime soon. While I don't completely agree with every point, the results on the field are not good. We have struggled against every P5 team we have played so far. Eventually, everyone will just stack the line against Perine and double Shepard and call it a day. We need contributions from many more players than that to win the next 6 games.

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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by achiro View Post
    not sure what that has to do with my post then?
    The only game that counts with Bell for the pro-Knight crowd is that 2013 Texas game. Forget the Notre Dame game and any other game he played in. Forget his legs helping him score 24 TDs in 2011 and 2012.

    Because Bell played bad against Texas, Knight has a lifetime free pass for playing sh*tty.
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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    He's behind Jake Fletcher and Patrick Sills....so...
    Sills was 3-1 as a starter. Not a bad winning % for the QBs of that era.
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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    The only game that counts with Bell for the pro-Knight crowd is that 2013 Texas game. Forget the Notre Dame game and any other game he played in. Forget his legs helping him score 24 TDs in 2011 and 2012.

    Because Bell played bad against Texas, Knight has a lifetime free pass for playing sh*tty.
    Bell played sh*tty against TCU, UT and was doing the same against ISU when he got hurt. His Belldozer TDs in previous year are totally irrelevant to being a starter. I'm a big fan of Bell for being a big hearted Sooner, but he didn't appear to be headed towards a great QB career. Besides, he decided to be a TE and the only way to succeed is to be all in.

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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner79 View Post
    Bell played sh*tty against TCU, UT and was doing the same against ISU when he got hurt.
    Don't forget the Baylor game, either. That one might have been his worst.

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    Re: What does Trevor offer that none of the other QB's can do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eielson View Post
    Don't forget the Baylor game, either. That one might have been his worst.
    Yes, but he beat the Domers! Wait, isn't that the same as giving TK a pass because he beat Bama? I seem to remember our D gave us a 2 TD head start against ND. And the Domers gave us those quick outs all game that consistently put us in 2nd and 3. Kudos to Bell for hitting them and the WRs for catching them, but TCU and UT took those away the following 2 games and Bell was lost. I actually give more credit to Bell for coming in and saving the game in the 2nd half against OSU than the Domer game. That was a great performance under duress.

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