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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curly Bill View Post
    Other than the Bama game I don't know that he's ever been spot on? Shepard makes him look a lot better than he is. Knight is not an accurate passer - even many of the passes that are caught are not especially accurate, passes being thrown behind receivers seeming to be the most common problem.
    If you say that, then the rest of his targets make him look worse than he is. Neal is the only decent one, and he sucked against WVU. Bell should not be our TE.

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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    The Best QB is the one before Or the Next one.
    TK is a great Kid.

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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    [QUOTE=IamBigRed;4861540]This . . .

    This. . .
    If we run the Landry style offense, then he is not the answer. If we run a read option offense then we can win and he will succeed...{/QUOTE]

    and this . . .

    He was successful in the Sugar Bowl cause they played to his strengths. He isn't a drop back passer. Design the offense for what he can do.
    In the Sugar Bowl almost all his big plays were as a drop back passer, so there's that.

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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner79 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamBigRed View Post
    This . . .

    This. . .
    In the Sugar Bowl almost all his big plays were as a drop back passer, so there's that.
    In both his freshman and sophomore years, there is a clear correlation between his running attempts and his inaccuracy. He just can't take hits well.
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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eielson View Post
    If you say that, then the rest of his targets make him look worse than he is. Neal is the only decent one, and he sucked against WVU. Bell should not be our TE.
    Blake was WIDE open in the endzone on the play where Trevor threw the pick. Trevor lobs it a bit over the defender and we most likely win the game.

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    Knight was inaccurate in high school and has simply carried that over to this level. His accuracy is likely to never get better. Unfortunately with the way this coaching staff works, he will be the starting QB the next two seasons as well barring injury, so another 4 year career QB that will not take the Sooners to the NC game.

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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    You could ask that question about any of the players on Saturday. They all need to play better. Our vaunted defense gave up 31 points. Our coaches seemed totally lost at times. It was a total team loss.

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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    We talk about this in the stands, Knight's lack of accuracy. He still throws behind guys. Receivers wide open have to wait for balls because he doesn't have great arm strength.

    Unless Stoops is a complete idiot - and, he may be with his real QB now starting at TE - Baker Mayfield challenges Knight for the job in 2015.
    Hahaha...Just spit out my coffee.

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    Offense scored 31 points! That should be enough to win any game. BLAME the defense and the kicking game.......

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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Bell's QB stats:
    150 of 253, 59.3% completion percentage, 1763 yards, 12 TD passes, 6 INTs thrown; Bell, 24 rushing TDs

    Knight's QB stats:
    169 of 299, 56.5% completion percentage, 2193 yards, 14 TD passes, 10 INTs thrown; Knight, 4 rushing TDs

    So, go lick up your coffee.
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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Go look up Bell's stats for the game in Dallas last year.

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    Go look up Knight's stats for any game not named Sugar Bowl from last year.
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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by olevetonahill View Post
    The Best QB is the one before Or the Next one.
    TK is a great Kid.

    I quit., Ima Sooner Fan . Not a Sooner Critic.
    I aint a 6 million dollar a year coach nor am I a High Paid ESPN analyst, Ima a FAN
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    That's not OK!! If you're not calling for everybody to be fired and the qb to be hanged, then you are not a real fan!!!

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    Understood, but just saying that Bell looked just as lost against the horns as Knight did against TCU. And in both cases, the defense was stacking the box and playing press coverage just daring us to throw. That's what we're going to see from every team capable of playing that way.

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    This is a strange topic given we scored 33 points. I was not able to watch the game until Sunday but I wouldnt hang this on TK neck. He did seem winded at times and possibly camping after several scrambles.

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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon St Sooner View Post
    That's not OK!! If you're not calling for everybody to be fired and the qb to be hanged, then you are not a real fan!!!
    Dayum, Ima need to go to skool and larn how to be a fan LOL
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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by sooner13f View Post
    This is a strange topic given we scored 33 points. I was not able to watch the game until Sunday but I wouldnt hang this on TK neck. He did seem winded at times and possibly camping after several scrambles.
    If he's winded/cramping on a 70-75 degree day...? Why is he running then? It's taken them this long to discover that their "running" QB gets winded and cramps up in 70 degree weather?

    That's a cop out. Oklahoma practices in temperatures much hotter than the temperature was in Fort Worth on Saturday. If we are to believe all the hype coming out of OU about the voluntary off-season strength and conditioning, the players are all happily putting themselves through hell in 95-105 degree weather all summer long.

    If he's dehydrated/cramping, that's on the staff. Get Schmidt off the sideline and back near the benches where he can help the players stay ready if it's an issue.

    Cramping on a 70 degree day. Baloney. That's poor preparation if it's true.

    Sounds like a Mack Brown/"I'll answer that one for Chris" type of response.
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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by sooner13f View Post
    This is a strange topic given we scored 33 points. I was not able to watch the game until Sunday but I wouldnt hang this on TK neck. He did seem winded at times and possibly camping after several scrambles.
    Well yeah, it's not completely his fault, but when the opposing team is stacking the box negating the run, and yer QB can't hardly make a single completion in the second half... how can you not place a significant amount of blame on him ??
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    Re: Is Trevor the answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    Bell's QB stats:
    150 of 253, 59.3% completion percentage, 1763 yards, 12 TD passes, 6 INTs thrown; Bell, 24 rushing TDs

    Knight's QB stats:
    169 of 299, 56.5% completion percentage, 2193 yards, 14 TD passes, 10 INTs thrown; Knight, 4 rushing TDs

    So, go lick up your coffee.
    I could not care less that Bell torched Tulsa. He threw for 152 yards against TCU, 133 yards against Texas, 131 yards against Kansas, and 150 yards against Baylor...and that was with a really good group of receivers. Even on Trevor's bad days (Saturday) he throws for 300 yards.

    Here are some fun facts...

    TK's passer rating against TCU yesterday: 112.2

    That's pretty bad, right?

    Bell's passer ratings against Texas, Baylor: 73.7, 76.9

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    Your QB shouldn't have to win every game by himself but TK contributed more than his share to the loss. He looked like the collegiate version of Tony Romo.
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