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    Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Because they are the ones who created it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/op...hate.html?_r=0

    A chronology of the House of Saud and how it created and propagated Islamic extermism around the globe and the role the United States played.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ows/saud/cron/
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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    The situation in the ME will never change unless/until the Saudi's want it to, which is probably never.

    Saudi Arabia is one of the most restrictive countries in the world, yet they are rarely (if ever) the subject of discussion. As long as the world (specifically the west) is energy dependent, things will remain status quo.

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Drill baby, drill...then drill some more...then pipeline baby, pipeline, etc. then vote out the socialists. all of these in any order.(ie, vote first if possible)
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    Drill baby, drill...then drill some more...then pipeline baby, pipeline, etc. then vote out the socialists. all of these in any order.(ie, vote first if possible)
    Exactly. I wonder if GOP administration takes over from Obama if they will encourage the US to become completely energy independent or if they will also throw up artificial road blocks to our energy resource development for the sake of helping the 2 faced monarchy in Saudi Arabia.
    Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    Because they are the ones who created it.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/op...hate.html?_r=0

    A chronology of the House of Saud and how it created and propagated Islamic extermism around the globe and the role the United States played.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ows/saud/cron/
    The House of Saud has played it's role mostly in order to maintain it's power. They thought they would be overthrown if they didn't pander to the extremists and they were probably correct. It's unclear how long they can stay in power, but I think it is shorter than most believe. Their domestic oil consumption is steadily rising and I've read many articles from oil industry types that think their reserve estimates are greatly exaggerated. If they run out of oil for export, they can no longer buy a cushy lifestyle for the masses in order to maintain support. The fundamentalist clerics will take over at that point because there is no shortage of the BS they can spout.

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    Exactly. I wonder if GOP administration takes over from Obama if they will encourage the US to become completely energy independent or if they will also throw up artificial road blocks to our energy resource development for the sake of helping the 2 faced monarchy in Saudi Arabia.
    if anyone votes 3rd party, they are helping the dems to stay in office. As to what the R's will do if they gain power again...well, that's our only hope.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    I will vote for all GOP Senate candidates but I will not vote for Tom Cole. He is the poster boy for a RINO.
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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    I will vote for all GOP Senate candidates but I will not vote for Tom Cole. He is the poster boy for a RINO.
    He COULD go along with the R's on a good vote, just to not look stupid. A D will almost assuredly not go along with a good vote.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Sorry, guys/gals, money talks and whatever big money wants is what will happen!
    Citizens United makes that certain, and, as I sit and type, it will go back and forth...
    The pipelines? Arguments are back and forth...they are NOT fool proof safe, but
    probably moreso than rail/trucks...Keystone? Nah, that stuff is going overseas
    anyway....Bakken, different story...the one through Iowa's 17 counties could be
    useful but the developers don't have a sound argument about safety and are really
    shady about the whole thing....

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Originally Posted by FaninAma
    I will vote for all GOP Senate candidates but I will not vote for Tom Cole. He is the poster boy for a RINO.
    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    He COULD go along with the R's on a good vote, just to not look stupid. A D will almost assuredly not go along with a good vote.
    Also, a vote for Cole, even if he's a dipsh*t, will help the R's gain the majhority, to keep the gawdawful D's from further infesting our government.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    if anyone votes 3rd party, they are helping the dems to stay in office. As to what the R's will do if they gain power again...well, that's our only hope.
    Rush, ahem, you are correct...indies and their votes will hurt whichever
    party is favored in any race. I'm certain the R's are no more honorable
    than the D's....I'll repeat what I said in several earlier posts...EVERY
    DAYUM INCUMBENT orta be tossed right now and we start over with
    younger, clear thinkers on both sides! Ima thinkin those folks wanna try
    to get along and get something done...jus sayin...

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    In 1902, a direct descendent of Muhammad ibn Saud, twenty-year-old Abd al-Aziz ibn Saud, rides out of the desert with 60 of his brothers and cousins to restore the rule of Al Saud. He captures Riyadh, the ancient capital of the Saudi kingdom, but to conquer all of the Arabian Peninsula, he seeks the help of nomadic Bedouins, the Ikhwan, or Muslim brothers. Renowned warriors, the Ikhwan are also fervent Wahhabi Islamic puritans who want to spread their form of Islam throughout the Middle East.


    So the jackasses in Saudi Arabia make a deal with the devil and we end up being their biggest supporter.
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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    if anyone votes 3rd party, they are helping the dems to stay in office. As to what the R's will do if they gain power again...well, that's our only hope.
    Half correct.
    If anyone votes Libertarian, they are helping Democrats.
    If anyone votes Green, they are helping Republicans. Not possible here but there are Greens on the ballot in other states.

    Voting by itself is no hope at all. Getting commitments from candidates before the primaries, and then voting, is the only way for the 99% to have influence. And yes, most Republicans are also in the no-access 99% of the population.
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    More epicycles!

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by TAFBSooner View Post
    Half correct.
    If anyone votes Libertarian, they are helping Democrats.
    If anyone votes Green, they are helping Republicans. Not possible here but there are Greens on the ballot in other states.
    certainly. If a third party candidate appeals to constitutionalists and has ffree market economic values and doesn't like unauthorized social spending, that candidate will divide the conservative vote, thereby helping the democrats. Socialism espousing third party candidates hurt the left, by taking votes from the democrats.

    The only time I can remember the latter situation happening was when Ralph Nader ran, and took some votes from algore.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Only The Saudis Can Slay The Beast Of Radical Islam

    Quote Originally Posted by 8timechamps View Post
    The situation in the ME will never change unless/until the Saudi's want it to, which is probably never.
    We could let ISIS go free and threaten the Saudi government. I think those guys would chop the heads off a few in the royal family. That might get the message across.

    Note: I don't really think we should do that but surely Saudi Arabia sees what they have created as a threat.

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