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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

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    It is obvious he hasn't even read the article because if he had he would have seen the matereial form the Army Dept. of Infectious Diseases imbedded separately within the text of the article.
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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

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    Is it possible that could cause the virus to mutate and increase the chances of it becoming airborne?
    It's possible that Ebola could mutate and become airborne. It's thought that Reston ebolavirus may have been airborne, but I don't think they're certain, and that particular type doesn't infect humans (at least for now). I wouldn't worry about this outbreak becoming airborne, though. While it is "theoretically possible," the odds of OU winning a national championship in football this year are exponentially higher. Perhaps a future outbreak could be airborne, but I'd bet we'll have vaccines by then. Until now, it really wasn't financially plausible for pharmaceutical companies to make a vaccine for something that only kills a couple hundred people in Africa each year...most of which couldn't have afford the vaccine anyway. Now that it's killed thousands, and has spread to the US, I suspect we'll see a vaccine within the next 10 years.

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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

    I guess it's theoretically possible for HIV to become airborne.

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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

    Quote Originally Posted by jkjsooner View Post
    I guess it's theoretically possible for HIV to become airborne.
    Exactly. Theoretically is the key word.

    "No virus that causes disease in humans has ever been known to mutate to change its mode of transmission. This means it is highly unlikely that Ebola has mutated to become airborne. It is, however, droplet-borne — and the distinction between the two is crucial."

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    Author: Dr. Celine Gounder is an internist, infectious diseases and public health specialist and medical journalist.
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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

    Quote Originally Posted by jkjsooner View Post
    I guess it's theoretically possible for HIV to become airborne.
    Your obsession with HIV is creepy.

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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

    All viruses mutate over time, but no pathogen infectious to humans has evolved to change its mode of transmission, that we know of (once it has infected humans). HIV now has several sub-families or "clades" that have similar genetic markers and vary by region of Africa and the world. There are also two different types, HIV 1 and HIV 2. The HIV virus has been circulating in humans for a century or so, and it has mutated to some degree, but it still transmits the same way, via bodily fluids. If left to spread long enough and in enough people, Ebola will also mutate in some ways. But this likely means, in the short run, changes in how it affects the infected, not the mode of transmission. Based on current evidence.

    There is a difference between "airborne" and "droplet" spread. Pathogens like smallpox and measles are highly contagious and are airborne, which means the pathogen itself can be suspended in the air for some amount of time due to its physical characteristics (inside a droplet of mucous or saliva), be inhaled by a human, and then the pathogen has to be able to invade the body through specific receptor cells in the lung tissue. Usually in the lower respiratory tract. TB is the classic example, as it hangs in the air encased in a microscopic moisture droplet and is inhaled.

    Droplet spread means when someone sneezes or coughs, droplets are ejected from their nose and mouth and some of these, even microscopic, may land on a person such that they are able to contact that person's mucous membranes -mouth, nose, eyes. Sometimes they land on surfaces and people touch the surface and then their eyes/mouth, etc. Flu spreads via droplets. There is no evidence that Ebola spreads like this, but it makes logical sense that there is some level of risk, however small, and that is why the precautions for droplet spread were added to federal recommendations for health care workers. Whether or not spread would occur like this depends on the stage of illness of the infected person, how much virus is in the saliva or mucous of the individual, and how viable the virus may be outside of the body. And of course, a susceptible host needs to be present to be infected.

    This outbreak of ebola will be studied and the scientific literature will advance in the next couple of years on the topic of spread. Virologists will examine the virus more deeply, and we will likely find out things we don't yet know about the virus. Some of the spread that has occurred has been unexpected and seemingly random, compared with existing knowledge of past outbreaks. I suspect there will be new and better protocols for health care workers and patients developed in coming months/year. Unfortunately, there is no way to prepare for every contingency in advance, and a lot of the learning you do with a new emerging infectious disease is on the fly.

    The two nurses who were infected, for example, was likely because of some failure in the protection protocol that was fairly severe. That guy was barfing all over the apartment with his fiancee and the kids in there, and none of them got sick. But two suited-up nurses contract the virus? Strange. More will be known as the science progresses.

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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

    I been running a Low grade fever, I must have the Eboola !
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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

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    I been running a Low grade fever, I must have the Eboola !
    a beer or two usually cures a hangover.

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    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: okay, so ebola is a little to close to me for my own comfort.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner91ATL View Post
    a beer or two usually cures a hangover.
    Aint hungunder. I think im really sick er sompun
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