---Why should anyone try ? You don't believe anything that is not your OPINION or you twist or deflect or change the subjectOriginally Posted by Sooner8th
---Why should anyone try ? You don't believe anything that is not your OPINION or you twist or deflect or change the subject
And the Koch fortune came from hard work ---Why do you hate everyone that is a success ?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TOO GODDAMN FUNNY!!!!!!!
It is you and yours that hate communism and socialism. Income redistribution is ok when a conservative is on the receiving end of the redistribution?
Totally buying into the koch/rightwingnut pr machine.
TRY AGAIN!
---You are just a pathetic ,sad , bitter little man
You really don't know, do you?
You think I'm a pathetic ,sad , bitter little man and I think you are just an ignorant, stupid lemming who will defend any conservative and/or anything to do with oil. Keep on in the dark. Don't go out on the web and find how fred sr made his fortune.
Red you may be the Very last to put him on Iggy. the dude is a Moran deluxe
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If God wanted Men to look women in the eyes, He wouldnt have gave em Boobs !
--Its on the web it must be correct ----I know he did business with Russia---90 years ago----Is that what you are worried about?
---Give him a break it probably his only joy in life
On the web? IT'S FAMILY LORE YOU DUMBASS! KOCH FAMILY LORE THEY ADMIT WHAT HE DID!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.................so he "worked with russia" 90 years ago huh? That is how you are defending him?
For those of you who are like good ol' redrex here who just wants the faux "news", nothing to see here version here is the truth that came from the FAMILY.
The good news in 1929 for young MIT chemical engineer Fred Koch was that he had successfully developed a superior oil refinement process with a business partner. The bad news is that he had a bitter lesson to learn about his laissez-faire competitors when virtually every major US oil company gobsmacked him with 15 year’s worth of patent infringement lawsuits. The net effect was that one cease-and-desist order after another was issued from the judge’s bench, and until the legal process could sort itself out, Fred Koch was – for all practical purposes – aced out of the US oil market. And the bills still needed to be paid.
So what to do? Fortunately, the Unseen Hand pointed the way to Soviet Moscow, where totalitarian dictator Josef Stalin was rolling out his first Five Year Plan for sweeping industrialization. And he was especially interested in oil engineers.
Fred Koch answered the call, and signed a $5 million deal in 1929 to build 15 refineries in the Soviet Socialistic Republic, thus providing a substantial wet kiss to the cause of worldwide socialism everywhere. Koch and his partner provided equipment and oversaw construction and installation, and quickly became Comrade Stalin’s number one go-to refinery contractor.
Flouride in the Water
Koch Daddy Fred returned to Wichita, KS in 1933 having made $500,000 in profits through his business dealings with Josef Stalin. One might think that he would be graciously inclined towards the Soviet system, given that socialism treated him much better than his own litigious, monopolistic and cudgel-wielding US oil fraternity, but that was not the case. He hated the Soviets.
Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-k...LpJrSbuCQrB.99
****ing commie money is where it came from! You dumbass lemming.
Tell me how this is ok. Tell me all about how obama is a commie, socialist income re-distributor while the people who lead you and your party around by the nose is built on COMMIE MONEY.
Tell me again how it was through hard work.
It was 90 years ago Why is doing business with Russia 90 years ago a crime? or even bad ?---Did you even read what you posted?-You are truly an idiot
LOSER!!! SSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO...IT'S OK WHEN GOOD OL' CONSERVITIVE MAKES HIS STAKE THROUGH THE COMMIES HUH? or even bad
Yes I read it, did you? You know that part about WORKING FOR THE SOVIET UNION AND MAKING HIS STAKE TO START THE BUSINESS THAT BECAME KOCH INDUSTRIES? DID YOU?
COMMIE LOVER
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So take it away and let him Starve LOL
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If God wanted Men to look women in the eyes, He wouldnt have gave em Boobs !
---Lets see Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger, Stock swindler and Anti Semite that thought Hitler was the answer ---- He made all the money for the Kennedy clan where does that put them?
Hey commie lover, I completely agree with bootlegging. You HATE commies until it's a conservative making money from commies.
COMMIE LOVER
---Answer the question Boy
Show me his "stock swindling". COMMIE LOVING PUNK
Hoo boy, yup, Joe K. cornered the market on Dewar's (and one other
brand, can't remember), not sure about the stock thing and, as to
anti Semite, well, JK just went with the times. He wrongly thought
getting along with Hitler might work, so, yeah, there is a dark side
with the liberal lions...the good out weighs the bad, imo...as with any
position....he dint make ALL the money, but most of it. Truth is, one
can make any argument about the Roosevelts, Reagan/Nixon/Bushes
and soon to be Clintons. Fact is, Lord Acton was spot on when he said
that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Our system of government
will ALWAYS produce an overbearing power structure, by simply being
elected repeatedly, which brings me to my longwinded point, term limits..
2 terms in the Senate and 6 terms in the house to go with 2 terms in the
White House (and that includes the same last name, heh)...and, yes, I
will caucus for Hillary...aint a Pub on the horizon worth a dip and I don't
want loose cannon Biden...
dang...Rock...you are spot on except for the last part! lol...can't agree with ya on EVERYTHING~
but that will NEVER happen unfortunately...
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
Yup Rock is pretty much on . On Most things. But I'd campaigen for a Nuttyiest dude in the world befor Billary!
Cant stand that bitch. Course i couldnt stand her Intern Molestin old man either.
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If God wanted Men to look women in the eyes, He wouldnt have gave em Boobs !
The democrats can be counted on to espouse socialism and cater to the those who want handouts. Hillary is only minutely better than Obeary. All the democrat politicians are on the same page. Der Schlickster showed them how much power they have, and its all been downhill from there. They want him back, and Hillry as president will pretty much deliver that.
Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.
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