Perine appreciation thread

[Eielson]

Y'all are unbelievable. Bo Jackson?!? Earl Campbell?!? Ricky Williams?!? Jerome Bettis?!? Don't make a mockery out of this.

You guys are seriously ready to ditch Mixon? WVU just might have the worst run defense we'll play all year, and I'm including LTech and TU in that. Don't get me wrong, Perrine had a great game, and I'm excited to see how the rest of his career unfolds. He's the same guy that had 10 carries for 33 yards against TU, though. It really wouldn't be surprising at all to see this guy as our #3 back next season. He's not Adrian Peterson.

[BigTip]

Y'all are unbelievable. Bo Jackson?!? Earl Campbell?!? Ricky Williams?!? Jerome Bettis?!? Don't make a mockery out of this.

You guys are seriously ready to ditch Mixon? WVU just might have the worst run defense we'll play all year, and I'm including LTech and TU in that. Don't get me wrong, Perrine had a great game, and I'm excited to see how the rest of his career unfolds. He's the same guy that had 10 carries for 33 yards against TU, though. It really wouldn't be surprising at all to see this guy as our #3 back next season. He's not Adrian Peterson.

Ah c'mon! Let us have some fun with a fun to watch performance.

[8timechamps]

Y'all are unbelievable. Bo Jackson?!? Earl Campbell?!? Ricky Williams?!? Jerome Bettis?!? Don't make a mockery out of this.

You guys are seriously ready to ditch Mixon? WVU just might have the worst run defense we'll play all year, and I'm including LTech and TU in that. Don't get me wrong, Perrine had a great game, and I'm excited to see how the rest of his career unfolds. He's the same guy that had 10 carries for 33 yards against TU, though. It really wouldn't be surprising at all to see this guy as our #3 back next season. He's not Adrian Peterson.

Agreed.

Perine is a good back (which we already knew), and he is probably a better all-around back than Ross, but it's a little early to dismiss Mixon. Everything I read/heard said Mixon looked head and shoulders better than any back on the roster over the summer. Perine is a solid back, as is Ford. But I still believe Mixon is the best we currently have.

With Mixon back next year, Perine very well could be our #3 next year. I'm not trying to discount the player Perine is, because he's really good. Just trying to temper some of the crazy talk.

[birddog]

So we are relegating perine to third string next year based on mixons potential? This is some pretty silly spec considering mix hasnt taken de a live snap. On top of that, 3rd string rbs who never fumble and average 9 yds a carry may end up witt the most carries throughout a game. Not buyin into the comparisons of the greats of yore but i know what i saw and dont see the coaches tellin perine to ride pine and wait for his 4 carries after he is,the first to accomplish ad Type numbers.

[Tear Down This Wall]

Watched the game again, as well as the highlight reel posted on YouTube. Very impressed by his feet and vision. He can cut laterally as well as anybody. He doesn't have a lot of speed, but is tough to bring down. If anything, he reminds me of Jerome Bettis.

Jerome Bettis was good. What I tried to do, though, is list backs who right from their freshman seasons ran for 800 or more yards, then continued to dominate throughout their college careers. Bettis didn't run for 800+ until his junior year and never ran for 1,000 in college. He's was a fantastic back, but I think few people put him in the class of Jackson, Campbell, Walker, and so forth.

Now, as a pro...yes, it'd be great if Perine can do what Bettis did as a pro.

But, what I'm saying is Perine has the look to me like he could go for 800+ this season and become one of those great backs people talk about for decades, regardless of team loyalty.

[EatLeadCommie]

Jerome Bettis was good. What I tried to do, though, is list backs who right from their freshman seasons ran for 800 or more yards, then continued to dominate throughout their college careers. Bettis didn't run for 800+ until his junior year and never ran for 1,000 in college. He's was a fantastic back, but I think few people put him in the class of Jackson, Campbell, Walker, and so forth.

Now, as a pro...yes, it'd be great if Perine can do what Bettis did as a pro.

But, what I'm saying is Perine has the look to me like he could go for 800+ this season and become one of those great backs people talk about for decades, regardless of team loyalty.

Fair enough, but I don't think he has much in common with Jackson, Campbell, Walker, etc, in his speed. Those guys could flat out run, period. Perine isn't going to win a lot of footraces, which is why I compared him to Bettis, aka The Bus. He has the ability to wear down opposing defenses and drag tacklers, but he looks to be running about a 4.8.

As others have said, such comparisons are obviously premature in any case. It's one game in which the O-line was opening holes big enough for a literal bus to drive through.

[8timechamps]

So we are relegating perine to third string next year based on mixons potential? This is some pretty silly spec considering mix hasnt taken de a live snap. On top of that, 3rd string rbs who never fumble and average 9 yds a carry may end up witt the most carries throughout a game. Not buyin into the comparisons of the greats of yore but i know what i saw and dont see the coaches tellin perine to ride pine and wait for his 4 carries after he is,the first to accomplish ad Type numbers.

Mixon is that good.

The coaches saw all of our backs throughout the summer, and Perine's performance was no surprise to them. They are also the one's that saw Mixon's ability, and he would have been ahead of Perine on the depth chart had he not taken himself out of consideration.

Again, I'm not trying to diminish what Perine did, but West Virginia doesn't have an elite run defense. So, I think it's worth at least keeping things in perspective.

If Ford is still out for the next game, and Perine has the kind of performance against TCU that he had against WVU, I may change my position on this. Until then, it's just one game.

[KantoSooner]

Would it hurt anyone to accept that we've got three excellent running backs who've seen time? And Brooks and Smith are not too shabby, either. And there's Flowers. And then there's Mixon who, unless you choose to disbelieve every one of the coaches who've evaluated him, is likely to be an excellent major school Div 1 RB.
I don't get why praise for one somehow diminishes the others.

[birddog]

Can we let mixon take a snap at This level before writing off Perine? Sure i have a softspot for samaje because his demeanor and maturity and he looks wise beyond his years. Answer This, can mix handle 34 carries in a game.? Perhaps im soured on mix because samaje is an unconventional back and someone we havent seen in years. Hes bigger, soaks up the offense and can pancake block like nobodys biz. Mix will Not be the feature back. Bob loves Perine and will have him in running downs much more frequently than mix, whom i see slipping out of the backfield for slip screens to use his speed. Mix has alot to prove

[Temujin]

I already mentioned this a couple of games ago, but Perine reminds me of a combination of Jermaine Fazande and Jerald Moore. He attacks the LOS like Moore and has similar vision. But he's built like and runs like Fazande. I'll take that - those were very good RBs.

[birddog]

Who does mixon remind you of? Exactly. I would Love for him to be something like Allen Patrick/ buster rhymes but i will never complain about the horses we have right now. It is so premature to cast off perine because of mixons potential.

[jkm, the stolen pifwafwi]

Jerome Bettis was good. What I tried to do, though, is list backs who right from their freshman seasons ran for 800 or more yards, then continued to dominate throughout their college careers. Bettis didn't run for 800+ until his junior year and never ran for 1,000 in college. He's was a fantastic back, but I think few people put him in the class of Jackson, Campbell, Walker, and so forth.

Now, as a pro...yes, it'd be great if Perine can do what Bettis did as a pro.

But, what I'm saying is Perine has the look to me like he could go for 800+ this season and become one of those great backs people talk about for decades, regardless of team loyalty.

If you look at the video I embedded he looks a lot like Reggie Brooks. Anyone who played in 5a at that time probably has PTSD from having to tackle the Brooks brothers at BTW and Meech Shaw at Bartlesville.

[BoulderSooner79]

Would it hurt anyone to accept that we've got three excellent running backs who've seen time? And Brooks and Smith are not too shabby, either. And there's Flowers. And then there's Mixon who, unless you choose to disbelieve every one of the coaches who've evaluated him, is likely to be an excellent major school Div 1 RB.
I don't get why praise for one somehow diminishes the others.

Because it's a zero sum game. Keep up, Kanto.

[8timechamps]

Can we let mixon take a snap at This level before writing off Perine? Sure i have a softspot for samaje because his demeanor and maturity and he looks wise beyond his years. Answer This, can mix handle 34 carries in a game.? Perhaps im soured on mix because samaje is an unconventional back and someone we havent seen in years. Hes bigger, soaks up the offense and can pancake block like nobodys biz. Mix will Not be the feature back. Bob loves Perine and will have him in running downs much more frequently than mix, whom i see slipping out of the backfield for slip screens to use his speed. Mix has alot to prove

I'm definitely not writing off Perine. I think he's going to be a major contributor for the next few years.

I followed Perine's recruiting pretty closely, and was surprised when he chose OU (over Bama). A big part of that was because he had a much better shot to play early here, and it's proven out for him. He's a smart young man, with an incredible work ethic. I'm also happy he's on our team!

[KantoSooner]

That's my point: it's not.
Except of course for our opponents.
And I have little use, or pity, for them.

[BoulderSooner79]

Perine makes himself very easy to like and it's cool when a guy has a special game like that. But I'd rather not see any of our backs getting 30+ carries as a matter of routine. Had Mixon not messed up, I didn't see him as a feature back, but as a change of pace and 3rd down specialist. I was hoping we could use him like DeMarco Murray with the ability to line up in the slot with Ford or Perine still in at RB. As we've already seen with Ford, a team must have a few viable options at RB.

[KantoSooner]

You're assuming, of course, that Josh will call plays that involve running outside the tackles.

[8timechamps]

Perine makes himself very easy to like and it's cool when a guy has a special game like that. But I'd rather not see any of our backs getting 30+ carries as a matter of routine. Had Mixon not messed up, I didn't see him as a feature back, but as a change of pace and 3rd down specialist. I was hoping we could use him like DeMarco Murray with the ability to line up in the slot with Ford or Perine still in at RB. As we've already seen with Ford, a team must have a few viable options at RB.

The West Virginia game was kind of a unique situation. We were missing one of the three backs that ordinarily share carries, and given Stoops tendency to go with the hot hand later in the game, the process was expedited. Unless we play with two backs in more games, I don't think we'll see another 30+ carry game from any of our guys.

Even if Mixon is as good as advertised, he's not going to be the feature back. Those days are gone. There are some teams that still use a feature back, but they are getting few and far between.

[BoulderSooner79]

I remember Brennan Clay getting 30+ carries against KSU. By that last series, he was barely getting to the LOS he was so gassed. Of course he was at least 35lbs lighter than Perine and the O-line wasn't opening many holes by then; Clay was getting the tar knock out him on that final series.

[Eielson]

I don't get why praise for one somehow diminishes the others.

When your praise is, "Perine had a great game! I'm excited to see what he does in the future," it doesn't.

However, when your praise is, "Perine had such a great game that Mixon might as well just leave," that does.