when am i not objective? i would say that i'm fairly objective and pragmatic.Originally Posted by FaninAma
show me where i have claimed to be a victim of anything other than the neo-con circle jerk perpetrated on everyone here with a dissenting opinion
The released criminals had committed felonies. You made the claim that they were not releasing felons. The article goes on to state that these released criminals went on to commit as many as 59 murders after they were released.
So yes, ICE under the direction of Obama's immigration service releases felons. And yes these felons go on to commit more serious crimes.
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murderers. i said murderers, not felons. felon is a pretty broad term. as mentioned, getting deported then returning is apparently a felony. again, i'm not that concerned there.
and i'm sure a lot of blacks that commit murder were arrested and released too. maybe you are on to something. we should have sent them to to Africa when we had them the first time.
You are just being silly now. Quit acting like Sooner8th and building up straw men to knock down.
So let me get this straight. You are OK with releasing felons as long as they're not murderers. Glad you draw the line somewhere.
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i'm not the one setting up straw men. i called out your link as false.
the link said they can't arrest or deport known murderers. nothing in any subsequent information has backed up the original inflammatory bull****
Your opinion is that it is false. You have given zero evidence that the author of the article is wrong. You haven't supported your opinion. Sorry if that upsets you.
Here let me give you an example of a straw man arguement so you understand it. The claim is that illegal immigrants that shouldn't be in this country in the first place account for a large percentage of outstanding murder warrants in LA. A person who disagrees with this assertion then tries to bog the discussion down in semantics and minutiae of how the statistics are calculated. When that doesn't work he attempts to compare the appropriate response to crimes committed by people who are here ILLEGALLY to the response to crimes committed by people who are LEGAL U.S. citizens inferring that those who feel the illegal immigrant criminals should be deported would have also wanted the legal citizens deported to their ancesteral country of origin.
Here is a little 411 that you can file away for future reference: blacks were never in this country illegally. There is no moral or legal equivalency between blacks and illegal immigrants in regards to their legal standing in this country and what the law allows the federal government to do with each group.
This issue has nothing to do with race or ethnicity. If an Irish illegal immigrant committed a crime in this country that person should be deported or prosecuted to the full extent of the law. They should never be released back into the community.
Last edited by FaninAma; 8/16/2014 at 01:51 PM.
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you can't separate this from race and ethnicity. it's not white people that are bothered with their immigration status.
there are legal latinos that would be, and probably still are constantly harassed by police
there are tons of illegals. this is a consequence of our country being better than the **** holes to the south. a lot of the time, these people are basically refugees. not much is going to change that without making the police state even worse.
i will say that i was initially reading the story as people wanted for murder couldn't be arrested. they seem to be saying people convicted previously, but that doesn't change that much really. the idea is that they don't want to deport people when their crime is currently that they are in the country illegally.
if there is a current warrant for a crime that isn't being in the country illegally, as i'm reading it, they can be arrested like anyone else.
YM, I understand your point. But with lax border policy a lot of undesirable illegal immigrants are entering the country. That is exactly why there are federal immigration laws and a legal process....to try and keep the undesirable elements out of the country. The criminals probably prey on the Latino community here in the US more than any other group.
It is a question of fairness to those immigrants who come here legally as well as a question of security for ALL US citizens here legally. I do not see how you can support non-enforcement of our immigration laws.
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yermom, don't bother, he just copied and pasted a link from a wingnut website so he can go grab his pitchfork and torch, he didn't even bother to read it before posting it or he would know it's OUTSTANDING warrants not all. He has no crediblity on this thread, I don't know why he is defending anything in it.
LMAO! Like you have any credibility in any thread...hahahahha...****'n lemming.
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Also, just an FYI, every legal immigrant from Mexico that I've known or worked with, can not stand wet backs. Get over yourselves and understand that illegal means illegal. Sheesh.
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I have an employee from Mexico that spent 10 years and a bunch of his own money to become a citizen----- He can't stand the open border----He thinks people should be able to become citizens but the need to do it the right way
I know you think you've found a kindred spirit with yermom, and it's cute to see you gush when you talk to him, but he, unlike you, does make sense sometimes. I can't imagine he's enamored with the crush you have on him.
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I'm not the one who swallowed a lie and posted the thread.
Try to remember the ' replaces a letter its ****IN', dumbass.
You can't even insult me without showing your ignorance.
Back to 95% or murder warrants in LA are for illegal when it's OUTSTANDING warrents.
Too goddamn funny when you and ol vet spend hours jerking each other off on here.
i will say, 8th has very soft hands.
That's the word!
I hear that's why he's been at Martha's Vineyard the past coupla weeks.
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Apparently they did release illegals convicted of "homicide related crimes".
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ed-of-Homicide
Care to rethink your statements?
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"they" meaning ICE not local cops
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