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    Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers...

    Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    If NOT a revolution then for sure Social collapse.
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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumanAlphabet View Post
    The bastage apparently counts Jaime Dimon as a producer, and consigns firefighters and our childrens' teachers to some sort of gray area. Jaime Dimon and his ilk are not only takers, but cockroaches (thks, Coach Royal) who have cost the rest of us much more in wealth destruction than even what they've gained by theft.
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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Does he include Henrique De Castro as a maker or taker? If you don't know about Mr. De Castro, he was hired on at HP at $40m a year and "departed" Yahoo after 15 months. He got a $109 MILLION walking away present for getting fired. When these guys on the right whine and complain about too few full time year around workers in the good 'ol us of a, I wonder how many on the list of "makers" sent American jobs overseas so they could rake in huge salaries and bonuses?

    And try to remember under who ramped up government employment, it is actually down around 500,000 since Obama took office.

    Please, please, please start a debate about private sector job growth under Obama compared to bush.

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumanAlphabet View Post
    The numbers are big and scary, but I bet that those retired and on Social Security would not be happy to be labeled "takers" as they worked very hard for those benefits. Same with elderly on Medicaid.

    In addition, I would venture a very strong guess that some "takers" are also "makers" who qualify for food stamps due to low income, or are working low-income moms who are enrolled in WIC.

    I get that we hate the freeloaders that come onto Judge Judy and get exposed as their freeloading selves and get yelled at to find a job and stop making children and being lazy, but that's part of the fun of Judge Judy, hating the freeloaders.

    I know that it's scary that we have so many retired people and are bound to have more as baby boomers keep getting older, but this is the way things are. Would you like me to yank the plug on you old farts so you can stop being labeled "takers?"

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    I agree. People on Social Security and Medicare are not takers. They payed into the system. If the government wants to give everybody all the money they paid into the system back with interest and shut it down then fine.

    Of course there are people on Social Security disability that are probably scamming the system.
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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    You want to include SS, fine. However, it was never to be meant as "retirement income" it was a help and the system was not intended as retire income, it was a help to ensure people didn't starve or go to the soup lines like in the 1930s. Other than that, SS was designed I believe on 10-15:1 ratio, it is now near a 2:1 ratio. this is not sustainable. I would argue welfare and WIC are misused, illegals and others on it, extension of long term unemployment benefits keeping people from working or accepting less than desirable jobs. at what point do we say we can't afford it anymore? Unfortunately, first ones in get the best... All this is saying we are paying for a lot that we can't today or in the future be able to pay for. Same thing for local employee pensions. There is a storm coming and the end won't be pretty. Cities are likely to go under, hell The Socialist is wanting to give Detroit 100 million in breaks to support their pensions... I fault the unions and politicians for agreeing to unsustainable retirement systems and kicking the can down the road...
    Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner8th View Post
    Does he include Henrique De Castro as a maker or taker? If you don't know about Mr. De Castro, he was hired on at HP at $40m a year and "departed" Yahoo after 15 months. He got a $109 MILLION walking away present for getting fired. When these guys on the right whine and complain about too few full time year around workers in the good 'ol us of a, I wonder how many on the list of "makers" sent American jobs overseas so they could rake in huge salaries and bonuses?

    And try to remember under who ramped up government employment, it is actually down around 500,000 since Obama took office.

    Please, please, please start a debate about private sector job growth under Obama compared to bush.

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    So, you think CEO's are exclusively right wingers?

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

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    So, you think CEO's are exclusively right wingers?
    WOW.....the thread opens with this is the fueled by progressives and DEMS and he has to throw a insult in also. BUT, when I say

    When these guys on the right whine and complain about too few full time year around workers in the good 'ol us of a, I wonder how many on the list of "makers" sent American jobs overseas so they could rake in huge salaries and bonuses?
    You read into it that I think all CEO's are right wingers. It was a simple question. I know not all CEO's are right wingers, but the republican party is the party of big business.

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    18 of top 50 congress people are dems, 8 of TOP 12.

    I'd say "big business" is BOTH parties...
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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerjeepman View Post
    18 of top 50 congress people are dems, 8 of TOP 12.

    I'd say "big business" is BOTH parties...
    top congress people?

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    figured you want me to be PC...congressmen isn't right since there are women...

    but AGAIN, you choose to focus on THAT vs the fact you called pub's "big business" and 8 of the top 12 are dems...I'm sure they don't believe in "big business".
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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerjeepman View Post
    figured you want me to be PC...congressmen isn't right since there are women...

    but AGAIN, you choose to focus on THAT vs the fact you called pub's "big business" and 8 of the top 12 are dems...I'm sure they don't believe in "big business".
    You are going to deny that the republican party is the party of big business?

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner8th View Post
    You are going to deny that the Democratic party is the party of big Idiots?
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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner8th View Post
    You are going to deny that the republican party is the party of big business?
    Both parties are now in the hands of big business. Obama's largest funding source was the Wall Street banksters. He scolds them in public, but defends their ill-gotten gains with his lack of policies (or weak policies). We have Obamacare, a ginormous subsidy for the insurance industry, instead of single payer health care. Strike 3, early in year five of his presidency, he tried to crack open Social Security using the Chained CPI (echoing Bush the Lesser in yr 5 of his presidency).

    Republicans are worse, no doubt about it. But both sides are now beholden to the 1%, not the rest of us.
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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
    The numbers are big and scary, but I bet that those retired and on Social Security would not be happy to be labeled "takers" as they worked very hard for those benefits. Same with elderly on Medicaid.

    In addition, I would venture a very strong guess that some "takers" are also "makers" who qualify for food stamps due to low income, or are working low-income moms who are enrolled in WIC.

    I get that we hate the freeloaders that come onto Judge Judy and get exposed as their freeloading selves and get yelled at to find a job and stop making children and being lazy, but that's part of the fun of Judge Judy, hating the freeloaders.

    I know that it's scary that we have so many retired people and are bound to have more as baby boomers keep getting older, but this is the way things are. Would you like me to yank the plug on you old farts so you can stop being labeled "takers?"
    Of course, if you subtract those with earned benefits like SS and Medicare, and add in government workers to the makers side, the original article's author's point evaporates. He no longer gets to divide us, like the tool of the CEOs that he is.

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner8th View Post
    WOW.....the thread opens with this is the fueled by progressives and DEMS and he has to throw a insult in also. BUT, when I say



    You read into it that I think all CEO's are right wingers. It was a simple question. I know not all CEO's are right wingers, but the republican party is the party of big business.
    I didn't read anything into it, I asked you a "simple question".

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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner8th View Post
    You are going to deny that the republican party is the party of big business?
    not any more than the dems....the pubs just don't deny it and lay behind a false pretense.
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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by 8timechamps View Post
    I didn't read anything into it, I asked you a "simple question".
    Wait Bro Dint you mention Carter and Teddy ****in Kennedy?
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    Re: Revolution is coming! 86 Million producers vs. 148 million layabouts and takers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerjeepman View Post
    not any more than the dems....the pubs just don't deny it and lay behind a false pretense.
    I just proved you have a ton more. Give me a list of names of democratic cheaters that are in congress right now. Conservatives talk the talk only when it's a democrat who cheats.

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