obama getting the women vote for the dems...

[hawaii 5-0]

So who's against it?

Well, the Senate Republicans voted against it. For the 3rd time.

Both Oklahoma Senators voted against it.

They must represent the citizens of Oklahoma, I suppose.

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[hawaii 5-0]

It's sad this issue is being politicized.

It should be a simple human rights issue. All men (and women) are created equal.

Same work, same pay.

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[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Well, the Senate Republicans voted against it. For the 3rd time.

Both Oklahoma Senators voted against it.

They must represent the citizens of Oklahoma, I suppose.

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Without even looking at the cases you mentioned, I would guess the votes were for business owners being able to run their own shop without a new government dictate. You are one who gravitates to new laws constantly restricting the freedom of the private sector. Little wonder you find more dictates more compelling than limiting government to the activities proscribed for it.

So, you double up with a condemnation of the republicans in office, and the people of Oklahoma. A twofer

[SCOUT]

It's sad this issue is being politicized.

It should be a simple human rights issue. All men (and women) are created equal.

Same work, same pay.

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It is most definitely being politicized, but not in the way I think that you are implying. This is a decent article talking about some of the factors that need to be considered.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...83752909957472

[FaninAma]

I have never, ever seen a woman get payed less than a man for doing the same work if they both have the same length of service in the job. Never. I defy 5-0 to give any specific evidence of this happening..

[okie52]

Well, the Senate Republicans voted against it. For the 3rd time.

Both Oklahoma Senators voted against it.

They must represent the citizens of Oklahoma, I suppose.

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Oh you mean another unnecessary law. I thought you were talking about some real conspiracy by men to shortchange women.

[Soonerjeepman]

definitely not AGAINST it...but I am AGAINST the gov dictating to businesses....and as far as politicizing it...lol..you got to be kidding me? ummm OBAMA is doing it.

[rock on sooner]

I have never, ever seen a woman get payed less than a man for doing the same work if they both have the same length of service in the job. Never. I defy 5-0 to give any specific evidence of this happening..

Welp, I'm not 5-0 but EVERY study quoted sez women are paid .77 cents to each man's 1.00.
You can look at CEO's...women vs men...a woman's pay is always less than a man's in the same
position. This thread is an amazing argument about nothing. Fact is, whatever the job is, whoever
is doing the job should be paid the same for the same work.

As to legislative versus executive order, I'd ask if the party in power is reversed, don't you think
a Pub would do what he believes is right with executive orders, since this FRICKIN' congress can't
collectively wipe its own arse because they argue over which paper to use?

[Turd_Ferguson]

Welp, I'm not 5-0 but EVERY study quoted sez women are paid .77 cents to each man's 1.00.
You can look at CEO's...women vs men...a woman's pay is always less than a man's in the same
position. This thread is an amazing argument about nothing. Fact is, whatever the job is, whoever
is doing the job should be paid the same for the same work.

As to legislative versus executive order, I'd ask if the party in power is reversed, don't you think
a Pub would do what he believes is right with executive orders, since this FRICKIN' congress can't
collectively wipe its own arse because they argue over which paper to use?

Still suck'n on Obammy's scrotum eh?

[Soonerjeepman]

Figure the libs won't read it....so I posted the best part~

While the BLS reports that full-time female workers earned 81% of full-time males, that is very different than saying that women earned 81% of what men earned for doing the same jobs, while working the same hours, with the same level of risk, with the same educational background and the same years of continuous, uninterrupted work experience, and assuming no gender differences in family roles like child care. In a more comprehensive study that controlled for most of these relevant variables simultaneously—such as that from economists June and Dave O'Neill for the American Enterprise Institute in 2012—nearly all of the 23% raw gender pay gap cited by Mr. Obama can be attributed to factors other than discrimination. The O'Neills conclude that, "labor market discrimination is unlikely to account for more than 5% but may not be present at all."

[SCOUT]

Welp, I'm not 5-0 but EVERY study quoted sez women are paid .77 cents to each man's 1.00.
You can look at CEO's...women vs men...a woman's pay is always less than a man's in the same
position. This thread is an amazing argument about nothing. Fact is, whatever the job is, whoever
is doing the job should be paid the same for the same work.

As to legislative versus executive order, I'd ask if the party in power is reversed, don't you think
a Pub would do what he believes is right with executive orders, since this FRICKIN' congress can't
collectively wipe its own arse because they argue over which paper to use?

You should read the link that I posted.

[hawaii 5-0]

You should read the link that I posted.

I read the article of 2 persons' opinions and it supports both sides.

The numbers opposed to equality seem to rely on 'other' factors against same pay for same work.


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[SCOUT]

I read the article of 2 persons' opinions and it supports both sides.

The numbers opposed to equality seem to rely on 'other' factors against same pay for same work.


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Those opinions cite the Bureau of Labor and Statistics and the US Census Bureau. If you choose to ignore those other factors, you should stop using the catch phrase of same pay for same work.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Still suck'n on Obammy's scrotum eh?

Our board's Leftist posters aren't about to admit their thinking is flawed. Admitting something like that is very hard to face.

[yermom]

Minority women, that's true. Of course, minority men vote overwhelmingly dem too. Obama lost white women vs Mitt. In fact, he lost about every white demographic there was in 2012.

that seems unlikely given these numbers:

http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/fast_fac...GGPresVote.pdf

but i'd be willing to look at something that says otherwise

You are truly an amazing person in so much as your resentment and dislike of certain segments of this country is deep and sustaining.

what resentment is presented by the fact that women prefer to vote Dem?

maybe the legitimate GOP votes were shut down

to be honest, i think the equal pay thing is bull****, other than the pay disclosure bit. keeping everyone in the dark seems awful easy for management to screw people.

i'd be willing to accept that women put themselves into a position where they choose family over a career and don't advance the same, or make the same commission/bonuses. i would also be willing to bet that they might not negotiate a salary as well.

they also don't choose fields that pay as much. that .77 to a dollar stat seems pretty dubious to me.

if you want to have a chat about "diversity" you can see more how much of a "mouthpiece for the left" i really am

[rock on sooner]

Still suck'n on Obammy's scrotum eh?

Thanks, TF, you don't disappoint....

I've seen a couple of responses to my post but nobody seems to think a Pub, in the
same situation, wouldn't use executive orders for what he/she thinks is right.

I read the WSJ article, Scout, and some of the points are salient but I have a hard
time accepting everything a Murdoch publication has to say. It appears as though
there is a difference in the pay, for a lot of reasons, but still a difference. The amount
of the difference seems to be the argument.

And, from a 42 year personal experience in hiring and firing I can tell you there is a
difference in what women are paid for the EXACT same work, the EXACT same number
of hours per week, period. Yes, I can say that some bosses have said, implied, enforced
the idea of hiring a woman because he CAN pay her less.

[hawaii 5-0]

Here's one for all the Doctors out there.....

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katetayl...e-the-pay-gap/



Here's another one, a bit more 'specialized'........

http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/a...tor-27128.html


"Males earned an average of 32 percent more than females".


Another one.......across the Board female physicians are paid less. I'm sure in every instance it was because the men had more years experience.

http://www.beckershospitalreview.com...pensation.html


OK, one more. It's an older article but they show that the gender wage gap is widening.

http://www.amwa-doc.org/news/gender-...-pay-widening/


Lastly, this one is specific to one female who was paid less despite her seniority of years working.

http://www.beckershospitalreview.com...t-16-more.html


The AMA did their own study and acknowledged a gap exists, tho lots of reasons why.





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[8timechamps]

Welp, I'm not 5-0 but EVERY study quoted sez women are paid .77 cents to each man's 1.00.
You can look at CEO's...women vs men...a woman's pay is always less than a man's in the same
position. This thread is an amazing argument about nothing. Fact is, whatever the job is, whoever
is doing the job should be paid the same for the same work.

As to legislative versus executive order, I'd ask if the party in power is reversed, don't you think
a Pub would do what he believes is right with executive orders, since this FRICKIN' congress can't
collectively wipe its own arse because they argue over which paper to use?

If we're talking Fortune 500 CEO's then I don't feel sorry for any of them, regardless of gender.

The top paid female CEO in the country is Marissa Mayer (Yahoo! CEO). Poor thing only made $36 million (plus stock benefits) last year. I'm sorry, but I don't give two ****s about how much men -vs- women CEO's make. They agreed to their contracts, and if they are okay with them, I could care less.

I've seen the same reports you're referring to (or heard them), and I can honestly say I've never personally seen/met a female that makes less than her male counterpart with the same credentials.

This is about elections.

[hawaii 5-0]

This is about elections.

Ya got that right. Due to the timing it's pretty obvious. I still believe there's a pay gap. I just picked on the Medical Field due to FaninAma's interest, but I'm sure it exists in other fields as well.

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[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

This is about deceit to influence elections.

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