Vet, not sure here, but I think that the sign up is mostly for individuals. I baseOriginally Posted by olevetonahill
this on so many news interviews that I've heard. You can be certain, however,
there are a bunch of families, too. So, if I read you query correctly, there's prolly
a bunch more than 7 mil total.
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It's 7 million enrolled. So, the number of plans purchased through the program is less than 7 million, as it would include plans that cover more than one person.
I wonder what the true net increase of insured are. 7 million minus everybody that has had their plans canceled. Right now this is a shell game.
Now they're reporting that peeps in prison are part of that count as well...
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I would think that the particular institution, state or federal would be picking up that tab already. I really dunno.
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looking for a plan for my 18 yr old son, if he was on my school plan I'd be paying over $800 OUT of pocket a month...so he has his own and has his own for 4 years. The premiums CAN be lower BUT the deductible and the co-insurance triples..from 1500 to 4000+ with only 50% coverage after that.
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
we have such a cycle of "handouts" and "freebies" that our society in general doesn't want to work for anything.
I agree that no-one SHOULD be denied coverage, but at the same time I'm tired of paying for folks that really don't want to make their lives better by sacrificing their material desires.
Ex. a parent (low income, or non at all) brought 10 Pizza Hut pizzas to school for her daughter's bday on Wednesday. I really hate to put it this way but the family is on the lower end of the gene pool...more than likely on welfare, but has a cell phone and can spend $100+ on pizza for her daughter's class...choices
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
even with insurance, your average person still spends a lot of money for health care, outside of premiums if something goes wrong. kids just add more variables.
if you are just going broke trying to pay premiums, why bother at all? the emergency room has to take you. collections doesn't really have any teeth, as far as i know. insurance only works for people with money, and the paying customers get gouged. the system is broken.
i just don't get the point of this thread. is it that they are lying about how many people signed up, or that you we can't afford for people to sign up? the personal mandate is a joke. the penalty is WAY cheaper than paying for coverage. my premiums are more per month than for the whole year of Obamacare penalties, and that is with getting insurance through work. if someone healthy doesn't want insurance, they just aren't going to pay for it.
7,000,000 website hits, sure....I would bet a far fewer number have signed on the dotted like (or clicked the appropriate boxes) and PAID their premiums.
We got the bill a couple of weeks ago for just my emergency room, ICU (5.5 days) and hospital stay (2.5 days) in January, the total was almost $170,000 to which insurance negotiated their portion to just under $28,000 and we have a $2,800 obligation, we still haven't received a bill from the rehab hospital for a one week stay. I have since been visiting doctors and having treatments including another sinus surgery this past Thursday, our co-pay for that was $250 as we have met the deductible and max payout of my (company based) insurance (pretty much did by January 8th). Two weeks ago I had a hemoglobin infusion at the cost of about $4,500 a session which I may have to have every 4-6 weeks, there was no co-pay for that. We have been receiving doctors bills and such and they weren't as bad as we expected, our insurance is pretty much what it was before Obamacare took effect according to the bosses and insurance people, very few changes have been made to the policies in the past few years.
Supposedly, the ACA was going to alleviate that issue (or at least decrease the chronic ER users). In reality it's going to do very little (if anything) to change that behavior. People that don't want to pay for health insurance aren't going to stop going to the ER for whatever reasons they go (I'm not talking about true life/death emergencies). People that don't care aren't worried about the penalty either, as they will not file taxes.
My point in this thread is that the ACA has ended up costing the same people that were already covered, and costing a lot. Whether it's 7 million people is kinda ancillary to me, because it all comes at a higher cost to many.
Damn, what the hell happened?
As for your plan/premiums not really changing, I'd say consider yourself fortunate. I suspect your employer did what I did, and covered the additional cost...or, you are one of the few that things remained status quo.
Bacterial Meningitis, the ENT doctor who did the surgery reiterated they weren't sure that I was going to survive it and my sugar levels from the spinal tap didn't even register.
Our premiums went up a small amount in comparison to others that I have heard about, our renewal was in November so it may hit us this coming November.
The real deductible and premium increases will happen after the elections in November.
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Holy cow! Glad you made it through! Which hospital were you in?
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They theorize that I had a sinus infection go real bad. Luckily my wife called 911 when she did.
Saw a study the other day that showed just over 800,000 that have actually paid in. A LOOOONGGGG way from 7 million.
I would agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
For those that GAF.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapoth...rtner=yahootix
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Yes, cash paying customers get screwed but it is because government sponsored health insurance plans pay 10 cents on the dollar. When I was in private practice I tried to charge cash paying customers less but I was told by both private insurance and medicaid that was illegal.
Also hospitals and doctors are pursuing collections very aggressively. They will turn you over to a collection agency. I never did. If a patient had a large unpaid bill I would attempt to have my office work out a pay,ent plan even if it was $5 to $10 a month and I would write off 50% of your bill if you did. If that wasn't acceptable I was forced to discharge that family from the practice. I hated to do it but you have to keep ypur doors open. When I left private practice I had an accounts receivable of $$80,000 dollars for a 2 year period that was never paid. My accounts receivable was one of the lowest in the community among Pediatricians.
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