The European Union must recognize that its bureaucratic dilatoriness and subordination of the strategic element to domestic politics in negotiating Ukraine’s relationship to Europe contributed to turning a negotiation into a crisis. Foreign policy is the art of establishing priorities.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...0b9_story.html
If Obama had invested in natural gas and oil infrastructure and production instead of pissing billions away in green energy companies he would be in a much stronger position for dealing with Russia and the various dictators in the Middle East.
Instead he made a decision based not on the national interests of this country but motives motivated by politics alone. That is all he has ever done. He is a political machine product that uses graft and rewards for supporters and he was put in the most powerful position in the world by a bunch of dumb-downed, entitlement dependent morons.
Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.
http://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-compares-putin-actions-hitlers-173823662.html
hillary comparing putin to hitler....good? bad? indifferent? to me, it's a bad move.
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
I'm going to have to see something at least within the past three years if I'm going to believe Ukraine's majority doesn't want into NATO. That poll's not "a bit dated", it's almost 5 years old. A lot has happened in 5 years.
Maybe I'm not clear on your point (wouldn't be the first time I misinterpreted someone's message). What does McCain and Nuland have to do with Putin's invasion of Ukraine? My assessment all along has been that the US foreign policy has looked very weak, and Putin knew that going into this. I also don't believe any of this was initiated by the US. If you're inferring that because McCain and Nuland came out against the regime, that somehow caused all of this, then I completely disagree (but I'm not sure if that's what you're saying).
I think we should show H-20 and Barack a little rspect.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...r-e-s-p-e-c-t/
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Here is a wiki article that discusses the history of NATO and Ukraine. The latest poll is dated 2012 with a 60% against joining. Obviously there has been, and will continue to be, sharp divisions in the Ukraine on the issue of which way to go, Russia or EU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine...NATO_relations
I've discussed several times in this thread the meddling of the US government in the affairs of the Ukraine.
Here is an article discussing the phone call referenced in earlier posts on this thread.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957
The phone call between Nuland and Pyatt clearly demonstrates the level of US involvement in the affairs of the Ukraine and just how they are attempting to move things in the direction they want and eventually get. After all Arseniy Yatseniuk is the new PM and that is who was advocated in this conversation. In addition to this revealing phone call was Nuland's statements on a youtube video discussing why the US dropped $5 billion in an effort to move Ukraine in a desired direction.
McCain met with far right Svoboda leader Oleh Tyahnybok back in December is his trip to Maidan to cavort with the protesters.
Again, I think this goes further than just simply coming out against the regime, these are actions of direct intervention. You don't find it the least bit odd, I assume you think it is some grand coincidence, that those we have been publicly supporting since November are now the people in charge of what many view as coup against the democratically elected leadership of Ukraine.
http://reason.com/archives/2014/03/0...e-because-of-u
The truth is, anyone who actually believes Putin took military action in Ukraine because Obama backed away from his plans to bomb Syria illegally, doesn’t know anything about international relations.
it's not a perfect analogy, but there are some parallels, imo. Plus, knee-jerk folks know how to react when the Hitler name is invoked.
As for HRC running in 2016, I'm thinking that deal is in the bag. Why wouldn't she run? She's wanted it forever, and the Demos can hardly wait to put her out there. NY, CA, NE, all the usual suspects, are gonna be strong Hillary states. What can stop her?
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!