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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    I like the idea of having physical receivers that can block downfield because we will always have a slot guy that can get loose over the middle. Wouldn't any school take wrs that avg 6`5 as opposed to 5`11 if there isn't a massive discrepancy in speed and running good routes? What is the downside to getting tall fellas on the outside?

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Quote Originally Posted by birddog View Post
    What is the downside to getting tall fellas on the outside?
    Probably can't hit a free throw to save his life . . .

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    It's cyclic. Let some team have a huge year with a bunch of smaller receivers and watch the other teams beat the bushes to find all the smurf receivers they can.
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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Quote Originally Posted by birddog View Post
    I like the idea of having physical receivers that can block downfield because we will always have a slot guy that can get loose over the middle. Wouldn't any school take wrs that avg 6`5 as opposed to 5`11 if there isn't a massive discrepancy in speed and running good routes? What is the downside to getting tall fellas on the outside?
    I think any school would take a tall receiver over a short one if all things were equal. The problem is, the taller a reciver is, the less likely he can move like a shorter guy. So, over the course of time, more 'short' receivers get signed. We've just had a really good run on taller guys this year.

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Curly Bill View Post
    It's cyclic. Let some team have a huge year with a bunch of smaller receivers and watch the other teams beat the bushes to find all the smurf receivers they can.
    Yep. That's true for just about every position. If a team wins with a smaller, more agile offensive line, then that will be the trend...until those teams are beaten with a massive, bulldozing defensive line...then they'll go back. Very cyclical.

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Yep, there might not be a bigger group of "followers" than football coaches. Monkey see, monkey do!

    ...and yes, football coaches are much worse than other coaches!
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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    We've always gone after big receivers. Our problem has been effort and the ability to catch the ball. I'd say probably the most complete tall guy we've had was either brandon jones or travis wilson.

    Malcolm Kelly and Dejuan Miller were great on the 6 plays they caught a pass, but they made you want to strangle them on the other 59 offensive plays.

    Chaney, Tennell, Huggins couldn't catch the ball

    Fred Strong had academic issues.

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Quote Originally Posted by jkm, the stolen pifwafwi View Post
    We've always gone after big receivers. Our problem has been effort and the ability to catch the ball. I'd say probably the most complete tall guy we've had was either brandon jones or travis wilson.

    Malcolm Kelly and Dejuan Miller were great on the 6 plays they caught a pass, but they made you want to strangle them on the other 59 offensive plays.

    Chaney, Tennell, Huggins couldn't catch the ball

    Fred Strong had academic issues.
    And I thought Tennell was going to be a beast! He had crazy athleticism, but I never saw him play in high school or I might have known better.
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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Yeah, I remember when we got a commit from Justin McKay, and I thought "it's going to be nice to have a little height in the red zone" (although McKay wasn't crazy tall...he's 6'2")...then, well he ended up at Kansas.

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Quote Originally Posted by 8timechamps View Post
    Yeah, I remember when we got a commit from Justin McKay, and I thought "it's going to be nice to have a little height in the red zone" (although McKay wasn't crazy tall...he's 6'2")...then, well he ended up at Kansas.
    Yeah, I was excited about this fool too! So...I love to follow recruiting and get all fired up when we land these supposedly awesome recruits, but it goes to show ya never know???
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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Quote Originally Posted by jkm, the stolen pifwafwi View Post
    We've always gone after big receivers. Our problem has been effort and the ability to catch the ball. I'd say probably the most complete tall guy we've had was either brandon jones or travis wilson.

    Malcolm Kelly and Dejuan Miller were great on the 6 plays they caught a pass, but they made you want to strangle them on the other 59 offensive plays.

    Chaney, Tennell, Huggins couldn't catch the ball

    Fred Strong had academic issues.
    had such high hopes for Brandon Jones and Travis Wilson

    Wilson seemed like he came out of nowhere in 2004 when i thought Brandon Jones would, but didn't seem to do much in 2005 outside of that reverse at UCLA

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    had such high hopes for Brandon Jones and Travis Wilson

    Wilson seemed like he came out of nowhere in 2004 when i thought Brandon Jones would, but didn't seem to do much in 2005 outside of that reverse at UCLA
    While they only average catching the ball, they also were really good blockers. I'm just not a fan of one dimensional guys (which is what everyone else on that list was). Some could block but not catch, some catch but not block, etc

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    I noticed this trend earlier this year when our little WRs were having trouble getting free in coverage and getting beat up to boot. Your average corner is probably going to run a bit under 6 feet...You need the quick, agile guys who can turn their hips and direction on a dime, and normally those aren't the big guys (Sherman of the Seahawks being a notable exception), so big WRS are great just for mismatches they create in the secondary. Plus the bigger they are, the stronger they usually are so they can fight through jams and holds, etc... If you can find one who can run like the wind and has a good head on his shoulders, you go after him.
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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Could it be that WR is an exceptionally hard to scout position because high school arms don't compare to college qb passing?

    Plus in my personal experience, I found out real quick I couldn't get away with stuff in college that I did in h.s. as far as throwing the ball went. the difference in db's was off the chart.
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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    What defines a taller receiver? Because I thought for one year Justin Brown wasn't that bad.
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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    The addition of Justin Brown was great. I am looking forward to some taller receivers.

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Curly Bill View Post
    Yeah, I was excited about this fool too! So...I love to follow recruiting and get all fired up when we land these supposedly awesome recruits, but it goes to show ya never know???
    For as long as I've followed recruiting, you'd think I would have learned my lesson. NOPE. I still get excited about certain players, and of course eventually disappointed. It's a good thing I'm not on the staff, I would SUCK.

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott D View Post
    What defines a taller receiver? Because I thought for one year Justin Brown wasn't that bad.
    Yeah, good question.

    I've always thought 6'2"+ was "taller" for a receiver. This year, OU has 3 guys over 6'5" committed, so maybe that's the standard...anything over 6'5" is officially "tall".

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    Re: OU recruiting taller receivers

    We've always recruited taller receivers, but sometimes the HS coach is not totally honest. Shepard was listed at 6'4" in HS.

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