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    The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    The Will of the People Has Spoken, and America Died
    The End of an Empire




    Our Constitutional Republic died a peaceful death on November 6, 2012. Having
    reached the point of no return in a comatose state after years of progressive
    and illegal immigration assaults, the fabric of conservative society is now
    completely unraveled and Uncle Sam’s America is no more.

    The United States of America is now relegated to the dust bin of history as a
    “has been” empire. The Shining City on the Hill, the hope of so many millions
    since July 4, 1776, no longer exists. What rises from the ashes is a country
    that few of us will recognize, like, or learn to accept submissively.

    After 236 years of existence, a new country emerges today, run by secular
    progressives who rejected our Constitution, what we stand for, and who we are as
    a nation. The Supreme Court will be forever altered after its last conservative
    members will be replaced by the liberal academics who call
    themselves “progressives.” The rule of law will be implemented by
    Executive Orders, making Congress irrelevant.

    The communist motto “Forward” that resonated with so many ignorant Americans
    will plunge us into many years of darkness from which we will never be able to
    recover. We have proven our Founding Fathers right, they did give us a
    Constitutional Republic and we were unable to maintain it.

    The forces of the failed communist fundamental transformation that were driven
    underground in many places around the world, resurfaced with a vengeance in the
    United States and have now taken over.

    How long we will still have freedom of speech, movement, assembly, and control
    of our private property remains to be seen. Faith and churches will be driven
    underground; allowing secularism to prosper and take deep roots among
    the progressives whose God is Mother Earth.

    The welfare-dependent Americans, unions, and illegal aliens have chosen for the
    rest of us the dark path of serfdom to big government and to socialist utopia.

    Who would have guessed that the very people who were complaining that the
    government is not extricating them from disaster or giving them the help they
    needed in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, would vote for the very politicians
    who turned their backs on needy Americans after the lights went dark when the
    political photo opportunities ended?

    Who would have guessed that Americans were as ignorant and irresponsible as to
    choose fiscal destruction over fiscal sanity for their children and
    grandchildren, secularism and communism over faith, dependence over personal
    responsibility and self-reliance?

    Americans have been protesting for the last four years the dismal state of the
    economy and the direction of our country, the corruption of our politicians, and
    the loss of personal and economic freedom.

    Rallies in support of conservatism overwhelmed venues for Mitt Romney while
    rallies for our bumbling President became scarcer and scarcer. Yet,
    miraculously, at the ballot box, our President won all over the country.

    We lost seats in the Senate. Americans chose liars and cheats to be their
    Senators and Representatives, rejecting those who protected the Constitution.
    The candidate from Massachusetts who claimed direct American Indian lineage to
    Pocahontas is now a Senator, having defeated Scott Brown. Representative Allen
    West lost his seat by a narrow margin to the infamous Wasserman Schultz from
    Florida.

    Americans chose high unemployment, reduction of our military, communist
    indoctrination of their children, and loss of personal freedoms unlike we have
    never seen before in this country.

    I am saddened by the loss of millions and millions of American soldiers who have
    died to preserve freedom yet we lost it on November 6, 2012. Those buried in
    cemeteries around the world and at Arlington must be rolling in their graves
    today. We shamelessly allowed their sacrifice of blood and treasure to go
    in vain. We have no honor because we let down all the soldiers who fought in
    recent times and returned home limbless with lives shattered from physical and
    mental wounds of war.

    I mourn today the loss of my adopted country. I have fought hard over the last
    four years to prevent its overt and accelerated destruction but the darker
    forces stronger than many of us have overcome concerted efforts by millions of
    Americans to maintain the Republic. Mediocrity, sloth, godlessness,
    dependence, cowardice, using the law selectively or ignoring it, and
    hopeless corruption will define the new country. Only God can save us now with
    his mercy and grace.



    Do you lefties really know where you have taken this country? Did you really hate it so much you were willing to go along with Obama's promise to "Fundamentally change this country?"

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Should be a sticky, for as long as the internet is allowed to be used by individuals.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Here's an anonymous(author not mentioned) email I received from a friend:

    Congratulations to the Democrats and Young People! You now own it. The next terrorist attack you own it. Can't get a job after graduation, you own it. Sky rocketing energy prices due to Obama's EPA shutting down the energy producing states, you own it. A nuclear Iran, you own it. Bowing to the Soviet Union, you own it. Another severe recession, you own it. A volatile border with Mexico, you own it. Trouble getting good health care, you own it. Higher heath insurance costs and health care costs, you own it. No budget, you own it. Our allies mistrust, you own it. Another trillion of debt, you own it. More Benghazi situations, you own it. No one willing to join the military, you own it. Trouble getting to loan to buy a home, you own it. More dependency on food stamps, you own it. Trouble finding good employment, you own it. Several part time jobs instead of a good job, you own it. A World Government, you own it. The UN governing the United States instead of ourselves, you own it. A Senate that will not bring any legislation to the table rather it is "Dead on Arrival", you own it. China controlling our world trade trampling all over us, you own it. Loss of our freedoms as we have known it in the past, you own it. A dictatorship instead of a democracy that follows the Constituion, you own it. Less take home pay and higher living costs, you own it. Driving a car that looks like a toy, you own it. More government corruption and lies, you own it. More toleration of extreme and fanatical Islamists, you own it. Terrorist attacks called work place incidents, you own it. Your revenge instead of love of country, you own it. President George Bush is out of it now, and there is not another good man for you to villify and lie about. In a way I am relieved that another good man will not be blamed when it was impossible to clean up this mess you voted for. Have a good day. God bless the United States and Texas! God is our hope now.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    1)If the 'American Empire' died then good riddance. We were never ever supposed to be an empire.

    2)Our Republic died more than 140 years ago and was replaced by an empire whose loss you lamented in the thread title.

    3)Let's not go overboard here.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    meh.....it could be said that things really changed in the 60's. That's when the wars on poverty and drugs really began.....thanks to Ds & Rs.

    Didn't Nixon actually start the DEA? Not sure and too lazy to google it but I thought his administration was pushing it.

    Others claim that the income tax, federal reserve and WWI put us on a path of no return.

    As depressing as it may be....I think those of us that are libertarian leaning have to acknowledge that the majority of our society prefers security to freedom. The only thing that we have on our side is that the current forms of government are unsustainable. Also, there are plenty of ways to live a libertarian lifestyle in the US. You just have to adjust to living in very rural areas and in states that do not meddle in local codes.

    But I disagree with the OP. We were on this path regardless of who was elected.......its not the politicians.....it's the citizens and their demands. We have a "free lunch" government, economy and society. Moms gonna fix all soon.
    "They replace the priest by a king, the king by an oligarchy, the oligarchy by a despot, the despot by an aristocracy, the aristocrats by a majority, the majority by a tyrant, the tyrant by oligarchs, the oligarchs by aristocrats, the aristocrats by a king, the king by a parliament, the parliament by a dictator, the dictator by a king…six thousands years of it in every language"

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    I do pray to God every night that this isn't the end, unfortunately I do think we have definitely turned down that fork in the road.

    The fact that the whole attitude of redistribution of wealth, gov handouts, no responsibility (pregnancies, drugs, affairs, jobs, etc) permeates this country now more than ever. The hippies of the 60's are now in charge, THAT is scary.

    I feel for my kids and unborn grand kids, if my kids so choose to have kids.

    I know the libs on here continue to say "you believe that gloom and doom bs"...yes I do. It may take 5, 10, 15 yrs to really take hold, we will see.
    How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    If she hates what America has become, she can always go back to Romania.
    Ingles solamente (¡no exepciones!)

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    Yup, Nixon signed the DEA into existence in 1973. Biggest issue that I have
    in the anonymous email is the premise that George W Bush was a good man.
    Some of the examples given are a stretch but the premise of Obama owning
    those things is pretty much on. I would advance the idea that a recovering
    economy, we own it. The end of Afghan war, we own it. Some control of
    Wall Street and big banks, we own it. A closed doughnut hole, we own it.
    Spending being gotten under control, we own it. Restructured tax codes, we
    own it. Deficits coming down, we own it. Unemployment coming down, we
    own it. Energy self sufficient, we own it..North America providing its own oil,
    we own it. More off shore (Pacific and Atlantic) drilling, we own it. (Okie52,
    ya listening?) Stabilized and growing alternative energy industry,
    we own it. Of course, blessing Texas, well, you can own that one!

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    1)If the 'American Empire' died then good riddance. We were never ever supposed to be an empire.

    2)Our Republic died more than 140 years ago and was replaced by an empire whose loss you lamented in the thread title.

    3)Let's not go overboard here.
    Actually it took a a few more assualts to finish the job. Those occured in 1913, throughout the 1940's and in 1964.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by rock on sooner View Post
    Yup, Nixon signed the DEA into existence in 1973. Biggest issue that I have
    in the anonymous email is the premise that George W Bush was a good man.
    Some of the examples given are a stretch but the premise of Obama owning
    those things is pretty much on. I would advance the idea that a recovering
    economy, we own it. The end of Afghan war, we own it. Some control of
    Wall Street and big banks, we own it. A closed doughnut hole, we own it.
    Spending being gotten under control, we own it. Restructured tax codes, we
    own it. Deficits coming down, we own it. Unemployment coming down, we
    own it. Energy self sufficient, we own it..North America providing its own oil,
    we own it. More off shore (Pacific and Atlantic) drilling, we own it. (Okie52,
    ya listening?) Stabilized and growing alternative energy industry,
    we own it. Of course, blessing Texas, well, you can own that one!

    More offshore drilling in the Atlantic and pacific in the next 4 years? That's a good one.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Absurd and Pathetic. That's what this thread is.
    You tell me it's the institution. Well, you know, you'd better free your mind instead.
    (Shoo-bee doo-wah)

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    More offshore drilling in the Atlantic and pacific in the next 4 years? That's a good one.
    I was checking to see if you were awake. Of course, it takes years
    from the time permits are issued to sink a bit, but it is POSSIBLE
    some permits could be issued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSooner View Post
    Absurd and Pathetic. That's what this thread is.
    Don't disagree with you, but felt the arguments put out there shouldn't
    be left unanswered.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by rock on sooner View Post
    I was checking to see if you were awake. Of course, it takes years
    from the time permits are issued to sink a bit, but it is POSSIBLE
    some permits could be issued.
    Not during the next 4 years...obama's already put the Atlantic off limits until 2017 for further "study". The pacific isn't even open to discussion.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    Not during the next 4 years...obama's already put the Atlantic off limits until 2017 for further "study". The pacific isn't even open to discussion.
    Wasn't sure of his dates...maybe he'll change his mind since there
    is a decent chance we can get to little or no Middle East oil.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by rock on sooner View Post
    Wasn't sure of his dates...maybe he'll change his mind since there
    is a decent chance we can get to little or no Middle East oil.
    There is that chance but we are going to have increase production by 4,000,000 barrels to get there.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by rock on sooner View Post
    Don't disagree with you, but felt the arguments put out there shouldn't
    be left unanswered.
    Sure. Its not all hysteria. I'm just too tired - and happy despite it all -- to enter the fray. Carry on, sir.
    You tell me it's the institution. Well, you know, you'd better free your mind instead.
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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Damn, sounds like a bunch of whiny quitters in here. All I see is a bunch of complaining and finger pointing at each other. Far as I can tell that's never going to stop nor has it ever fixed or changed anything. So what are your options? I don't see a lot of action, but plenty of complaining. I'm just wondering who you all are waiting on to fix this supposed downfall. I'll continue to depend on myself. Its worked so far, regardless of the government or what moron was in charge.

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    There is that chance but we are going to have increase production by 4,000,000 barrels to get there.
    Canada, U.S, Mexico, Brazil and maybe Argentina together, if they
    all ramped up exploration and production could be done. Do you
    know if there has been any efforts on the Pacific side of South America
    for exploration?

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    Re: The Will of the people has spoken, and America Died. The End of an Empire

    Quote Originally Posted by rock on sooner View Post
    Canada, U.S, Mexico, Brazil and maybe Argentina together, if they
    all ramped up exploration and production could be done. Do you
    know if there has been any efforts on the Pacific side of South America
    for exploration?
    It can be done in North America no problem as long as oil prices stay at around $90-$100. We should be able to bring on 2 MMBOPD this year and that doesn't include heavy SAGD oil from Canada which is primarily dependent on the XL pipeline. This is without increasing the drilling offshore although there will be a point at which offshore drilling will be needed to stave off declines. It takes years to bring the big reserves online from offshore, so Okie52 is right in that exploration has to start now.
    Metaphors be with you!

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