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    Why do honor systems fail?

    I found this little story on the internets enlightening:

    We used to have someone who would buy cans of Coke bulk and keep them in the fridge, selling them and donating the proceeds to charity. It relied on the honor system to leave money for them, but over time, the money wasn’t matching the missing cans… by a significant margin.

    People started to get into heated arguments about it, with accusations flying left and right and emails questioning “What kind of people work here?!”

    Finally, after much discussion, a webcam was set up to keep an eye on it. Many thought it signaled the end of our company culture and an absolute loss of faith in who we thought were our friends and coworkers.

    The next day we fired the cleaners for stealing the money and drinking the coke.
    Have you ever personally cheated in an "honor system" knowing that you wouldn't get caught, or witnessed someone else violating said "honor system?"

    My own story: On trips, we'd fill coolers to the brink with ice and soda as a fundraiser for our group. Some would watch the cooler like hawks, others would put it in elsewhere in the bus and have an "honor system," that you just pay for your drink when you take one.

    Guess which buses' coolers were missing the most soda and had the least money by the time the trip was over.

    I don't think it's economics --- sodas are fairly cheap. I think it's all about opportunity and the lack of fear in getting caught.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    "Sodas"


    I hate that word!

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Because people self interested. Not always; but some of the time we are all likely to 'cheat'. Failure to accept that simple fact has doomed all left wing political systems to irrelevance.
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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    People don't take pride in being honest anymore. People don't take pride in a lot of virtues anymore.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Here's to Honor....Get on her and stay on her......!!
    Hey... maybe T BOONE can pony up and start a Stilleater newspaper... but the players would probably just use it to roll the weed.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Why do birds suddenly appear every time that you're near?

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    This thread is just one big exercise in non-sequiturs. And pie.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    I made a buttermilk pie last week. Yummmmm.
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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    I like my pie with extra sequiturs.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viking Kitten View Post
    This thread is just one big exercise in non-sequiturs. And pie.
    You never post a thread in the South Oval without running that risk. I just thought that was a cute story on the honor system because I think we've all heard it before in some way shape or form, whether it involves an "on your honor" pact or not.

    For example, the disappearing pie that you blame your kids for, only to discover the dog eating it in another rooom

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Damn illegals with no honor...
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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Memtig14 View Post
    "Sodas"


    I hate that word!
    Me to. Thats ounds so "Dayum Yankee"
    Every one knows its
    " Soda Water"
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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    I can't stand when people call it "pop." Especially the Midwesterners from Iowa and Minnesota. It's coke. Everybody knows that.

    "What kinda coke you want?" "I'll have a Dr. Pepper." "OK, here ya go."

    And on the honor system, I have a neighbor who sells fruits/veggies/eggs/etc. by the roadside and they leave a gallon jar for money. Prices on all the items are clearly marked. They never had trouble - and oftentimes people leave more than what the asking price is. Until the Mexicans started stopping by. Not only did the $ come up missing, but so did stuff like shovels, tools, etc. No more honor system. Mexicans ruined it.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Mexicans make a dessert called flan that is just delicious.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    If everyone behaved honorably, then the honor system would work. The problem is that many people behave dishonorably.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viking Kitten View Post
    Mexicans make a dessert called flan that is just delicious.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viking Kitten View Post
    Mexicans make a dessert called flan that is just delicious.

    It ain't no creme brule', but it's alright.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    focus, people.

    honor systems work for honorable people; they don't work for non-honorable people. they don't work because the person never had any intention of keeping their "promise" to begin with. a person who has honor, doesn't need to sign into any "honor system" in the first place.
    I don’t know if the block on that last one was due to low trajectory or if the guys up front didn’t hold their ground well enough. I’m not convinced it matters. We have every reason to believe the ball could have gone through the uprights and the refs would have signaled first down Oregon. - D.E.

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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    Cause there's NO honor among thieves
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    Re: Why do honor systems fail?

    easy, No Honor, I would say more, but I don't want to get the correct police upset. As you can tell I have upset somebody.

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