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    How about better parents?

    Good article:

    How About Better Parents?

    By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

    IN recent years, we’ve been treated to reams of op-ed articles about how we need better teachers in our public schools and, if only the teachers’ unions would go away, our kids would score like Singapore’s on the big international tests. There’s no question that a great teacher can make a huge difference in a student’s achievement, and we need to recruit, train and reward more such teachers. But here’s what some new studies are also showing: We need better parents. Parents more focused on their children’s education can also make a huge difference in a student’s achievement.
    How do we know? Every three years, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, or O.E.C.D., conducts exams as part of the Program for International Student Assessment, or PISA, which tests 15-year-olds in the world’s leading industrialized nations on their reading comprehension and ability to use what they’ve learned in math and science to solve real problems — the most important skills for succeeding in college and life. America’s 15-year-olds have not been distinguishing themselves in the PISA exams compared with students in Singapore, Finland and Shanghai.
    To better understand why some students thrive taking the PISA tests and others do not, Andreas Schleicher, who oversees the exams for the O.E.C.D., was encouraged by the O.E.C.D. countries to look beyond the classrooms. So starting with four countries in 2006, and then adding 14 more in 2009, the PISA team went to the parents of 5,000 students and interviewed them “about how they raised their kids and then compared that with the test results” for each of those years, Schleicher explained to me. Two weeks ago, the PISA teampublished the three main findings of its study:
    “Fifteen-year-old students whose parents often read books with them during their first year of primary school show markedly higher scores in PISA 2009 than students whose parents read with them infrequently or not at all. The performance advantage among students whose parents read to them in their early school years is evident regardless of the family’s socioeconomic background. Parents’ engagement with their 15-year-olds is strongly associated with better performance in PISA.”
    Schleicher explained to me that “just asking your child how was their school day and showing genuine interest in the learning that they are doing can have the same impact as hours of private tutoring. It is something every parent can do, no matter what their education level or social background.”
    For instance, the PISA study revealed that “students whose parents reported that they had read a book with their child ‘every day or almost every day’ or ‘once or twice a week’ during the first year of primary school have markedly higher scores in PISA 2009 than students whose parents reported that they had read a book with their child ‘never or almost never’ or only ‘once or twice a month.’ On average, the score difference is 25 points, the equivalent of well over half a school year.”
    Yes, students from more well-to-do households are more likely to have more involved parents. “However,” the PISA team found, “even when comparing students of similar socioeconomic backgrounds, those students whose parents regularly read books to them when they were in the first year of primary school score 14 points higher, on average, than students whose parents did not.”
    The kind of parental involvement matters, as well. “For example,” the PISA study noted, “on average, the score point difference in reading that is associated with parental involvement is largest when parents read a book with their child, when they talk about things they have done during the day, and when they tell stories to their children.” The score point difference is smallest when parental involvement takes the form of simply playing with their children.
    These PISA findings were echoed in a recent study by the National School Boards Association’s Center for Public Education, and written up by the center’s director, Patte Barth, in the latest issue of The American School Board Journal.
    The study, called “Back to School: How parent involvement affects student achievement,” found something “somewhat surprising,” wrote Barth: “Parent involvement can take many forms, but only a few of them relate to higher student performance. Of those that work, parental actions that support children’s learning at home are most likely to have an impact on academic achievement at school.
    “Monitoring homework; making sure children get to school; rewarding their efforts and talking up the idea of going to college. These parent actions are linked to better attendance, grades, test scores, and preparation for college,” Barth wrote. “The study found that getting parents involved with their children’s learning at home is a more powerful driver of achievement than parents attending P.T.A. and school board meetings, volunteering in classrooms, participating in fund-raising, and showing up at back-to-school nights.”
    To be sure, there is no substitute for a good teacher. There is nothing more valuable than great classroom instruction. But let’s stop putting the whole burden on teachers. We also need better parents. Better parents can make every teacher more effective.




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    Re: How about better parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by diverdog View Post
    Good article:
    Whether or not parents need to do better does not somehow change the fact that public worker unions are the scourge of society.

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Maybe we need a Parents Union ?----No that would make things worse

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    Re: How about better parents?

    It only makes sense to focus policy on the aspects of education we have control over. Unless we're going to start revoking parental rights over poor grades, we can't fix the parents, but we can have an effect on teacher and administrator quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    It only makes sense to focus policy on the aspects of education we have control over. Unless we're going to start revoking parental rights over poor grades, we can't fix the parents, but we can have an effect on teacher and administrator quality.
    ---And that should be a local not a Federal issue

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    It only makes sense to focus policy on the aspects of education we have control over. Unless we're going to start revoking parental rights over poor grades, we can't fix the parents, but we can have an effect on teacher and administrator quality.
    It the government did not throw out such a wide and deep safety net, some of the "parents" might rethink their rates of reproduction.
    That is, if they actually had to feed, clothe, and house their children they might choose to raise fewer, under more responsible circumstances.

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    It only makes sense to focus policy on the aspects of education we have control over. Unless we're going to start revoking parental rights over poor grades, we can't fix the parents, but we can have an effect on teacher and administrator quality.
    What really needs to happen is to get administrators who have enough balls to stand up to bad parents and their brats.

    My wife failed a kid one time and she got called on the mat by the principal. She called the kids parents, talked to them at least 3 times, warned them that the kid was failing every test, sleeping in class, not handing in work and what did the spineless weasel of a principal do.....yep caved to the parents and forced her to give the kid a c-.

    Public schools need to have all the tools that are available to private schools including chunking out kids who are not doing work.

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by diverdog View Post
    What really needs to happen is to get administrators who have enough balls to stand up to bad parents and their brats.

    My wife failed a kid one time and she got called on the mat by the principal. She called the kids parents, talked to them at least 3 times, warned them that the kid was failing every test, sleeping in class, not handing in work and what did the spineless weasel of a principal do.....yep caved to the parents and forced her to give the kid a c-.

    Public schools need to have all the tools that are available to private schools including chunking out kids who are not doing work.
    +1

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by diverdog View Post
    What really needs to happen is to get administrators who have enough balls to stand up to bad parents and their brats.

    My wife failed a kid one time and she got called on the mat by the principal. She called the kids parents, talked to them at least 3 times, warned them that the kid was failing every test, sleeping in class, not handing in work and what did the spineless weasel of a principal do.....yep caved to the parents and forced her to give the kid a c-.

    Public schools need to have all the tools that are available to private schools including chunking out kids who are not doing work.

    and maybe less administrators, a benign union, and a program to reward good teachers and the ability to fire bad ones...parental "responsibility" is key...

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by soonercoop1 View Post
    and maybe less administrators, a benign union, and a program to reward good teachers and the ability to fire bad ones...parental "responsibility" is key...
    +1

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    Re: How about better parents?

    I was told that there would be no math...

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by soonercoop1 View Post
    and maybe less administrators, a benign union, and a program to reward good teachers and the ability to fire bad ones...parental "responsibility" is key...
    coop it is way more than just unions. We expect our public schools to be all things to all people. There is mom down the street who is constantly in the faces of the administrators because her kid "can't cope" and has "issues" and she is demanding free special tudors, a teacher that caters specifically to her son in a classroom of 25 kids. If she does not get her way then she sues. Something is very wrong in an environment like that where schools live in constant fear of being sued.

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Society has decided to accommodate the lowest common denominator. This is true for the school system, the tax system and the entertainment industry. There is nothing more destructive than this trend, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCOUT View Post
    Society has decided to accommodate the lowest common denominator. This is true for the school system, the tax system and the entertainment industry. There is nothing more destructive than this trend, IMO.
    Boy, isn't that evident? Its the Idiocracy Effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cleller View Post
    Boy, isn't that evident? Its the Idiocracy Effect.
    You like money? I like money, too! We should hang out.

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by cleller View Post
    Boy, isn't that evident? Its the Idiocracy Effect.
    One needs to look no further than the football board for living proof.

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    Re: How about better parents?

    Quote Originally Posted by C&CDean View Post
    One needs to look no further than the football board for living proof.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by C&CDean View Post
    One needs to look no further than the football board for living proof.

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    Re: How about better parents?

    when was it decided that kids can't fail anymore?

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