Nevertheless, I think she did it. From everything I have read, she is a sexual freak with poor impulse control, having had casual sex with countless men from Seattle to NY to Italy, and doing special hemp every morning chased by booze. Her blogs indicate she also has a sexually sadistic streak to her. I guess screw ups by cops and prosecutors are not uniquely American.
She gave herself up when she accused a bartender of the murder. The bartender had a very strong alibi, plus she was home the night of the murder. Who knows what the truth is, but if I had to choose one side, I'd say she did it.
Unfortunately, other than the books and movies about her, this is probably not the last we have heard from her. She is seriously disturbed and I expect in the next few years we will see something about her in the news, another dead, sexually totured body in her apartment, drugs OD, or something along those lines. The Seattle press did some investigating into her after her story broke a few years ago and found she was pretty much what the prosecution has portrayed: a hyper-sexual maneater with sadistic traits.
When it comes to somewhat attractive white female killers there seems to be a "beyond any possible doubt because I can't image a pretty girl like that killing her baby" standard.
That being said, how many pervs on this board would say yes to an Anthony/Knox three way?(the agreed upon Safe Word would be: "Oh my God! Put down the knife!).
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Is there any chance the press can stop referring to every young woman on trial as "beautiful?" Amanda Knox is not beautiful. She is probably a bit above average but definitely not hot. Anthony is more attractive, but not quite "beautiful. From everything I have read, Knox is many times scarier than Anthony. If Anthony refused to do some sexual act or was a perceived sexual competitor, Knox would probably slash her throat.When it comes to somewhat attractive white female killers there seems to be a "beyond any possible doubt because I can't image a pretty girl like that killing her baby" standard.
That being said, how many pervs on this board would say yes to an Anthony/Knox three way?
You are more man than the rest of us as long as your manhood is still intact.
You're entitled to your beliefs, however:
1. The cops botched this investigation utterly. Barney Fife could have maintained the chain of custody on the evidence more professionally. Thus, there really was very little 'evidence' other than a dead body.
2. The prosecutor was and is a politically motivated hack/clown. We'll never know, but I'd be willing to bet that, had George W not been president, Knox would never have been charged. This was a case of a prosecutor who was so alive with hate for Americans that he would have filed charges against an American for something sooner or later.
My impression is that virtually no one gave a damn about Kercher or finding her killer(s).
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You should read more about this specific prosecutor. His career was in the tank after he struck out going after a serial killer, saying that the serial killer was really a satanic cult who murdered young lovers to harvest their internal organs for use in their satanic rituals--that was really his theory of the case. He came to that conclusion after he locked up his prime suspect and the killings kept happening. When journalists started asking questions and publishing stories questioning his methods and conclusions, he had them criminally prosecuted. He is also facing trial for abuse of his office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_of_Florence
So when he says these things about Ms. Knox, you're going to have to take them with a lump of salt.
I mean, as to this case, the prosecutor's first theory that the murder motive was a Satanic ritual orgy (kind of his go-to motive when there is none), then it later became just a sex game gone wrong, then jealousy, then down to no motive whatsoever. He just made stuff up as he went along. Everything which could have gone wrong with the prosecution's case went wrong, which is something that is supposed to happen when the person being prosecuted actually is innocent. The prosecution's forensics were grossly mishandled and evidence was in fact fabricated, for example, what the prosecution said was Knox' DNA on the knife upon reexamination turned up to be a speck of flour.
Is it possible Knox is guilty? Oh I suppose it is, but the prosecution sure as hell didn't prove it. That's their job and they failed wholly.
There's no doubt the prosecutor botched the case and I am not questioning the appeals court's decision to free her. I'm sure they had legitimate grounds to do so. However, I still believe she committed the crime. The question of actual innocence vs. enough evidence for the state to prove its case are two different things.
No doubt. I, too, suffered through three long years of law school. This was not an ordinary crime, however. Even judging on the basis of a slim body of evidence, the damage to the body of the deceased is extraordinary. And, as the old saw goes: extraordinary conclusions require extraordinary proof.
That a young woman in today's world enjoys sex, even fairly kinky sex, does not, for me, rise to the level of 'extraordinary'. Nor does the fact that she was a friend of the deceased and had access to the place of the crime. Not even that she might have engaged in a menage a trois with the deceased.
She was handy. So far, that's what the cops have proven. And that, folks, ain't enough. Not for the law, and not really for us yokels. There's nothing out there that connects her to the crime except that she knew the deceased.
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I only knew peripherally what happened prior to a few days ago but having read both sides, it is clear to me that Guede was the only one that can be definitively tied to the scene. All of the other evidence was problematic which is why she was acquitted under appeal.
It appears to me that she did nothing better or worse than many of us did while in college, and her "confession" came after long hours of interrogation in a language she couldn't completely understand. These "confessions" used to happen all of the time in the US prior to Miranda and are still a problem today.
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In most cases I would agree with you that she was no more than a convenient target for the prosecution - and we all know prosecutors will railroad people when there is a high profile case, but after reading some fairly in-depth articles about her background leading up to the fateful night, I think she was very much capable of the murder. From what I read, Knox was not merely a young woman who enjoyed partying and lots of sex. She was a rare case of a disturbed individual who was out of control with her lack of impulse control and poor boundaries, but yet fully in control with maintaining a part-time job and high grades which landed her the opportunity to go to study in Italy.
From the news stories (not tabloids either): At UW she enjoying writing fiction with sexually sadistic themes such as rape. She spent two years at UW doing drugs (a special high grade pot) and alcohol daily and sleeping with countless guys and developed a reputation for being a man-eater who aligned herself with men and got nasty if any other women tried to enter her circle. Right before she left for Italy she threw a party at her flat at UW which was essentially a drug and alcohol-fueled orgy which turned into vandalism on the outside street. The cops showed up and they found the person to arrest: Knox. She ended up with a fine and then flew to Italy and within hours she boarded a train in Rome and proceeded to have sex with a stranger she met on board. These are just some of facts about her. Sorry, folks, none of this sound like a normal wild, fun-loving coed. It sounds like a disturbed young woman with no impulse control who was already out of control and very much capable of taking it to the next level.
I'm just ready for her and Casey Anthony to team up for a porn.
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Okay, so the basis of your argument is that:
1. She had a history of 'sleeping around'.
2. She got 'jealous' if other women were around 'her' men.
3. She liked to drink alcohol and get stoned (on 'special' pot, no less. Perhaps you refer to Salmon River Quiver or some such which is a) quite usual for the past ten years or so and, b) has been breathlessly reported upon by the media...all while there is a dearth of evidence that it does anything more than make you REALLY STONED).
4. She hosted loud, wild party(ies).
All this is then conflated into her being a 'man eater' with 'impulse control' issues (nice use of words to imply a psychological condition for what otherwise could be described as 'she's a wildass party girl') who's 'fully capable' of 'going to the next level'.
You'll excuse me for saying this but, you have failed to state a case that supports your conclusion. Or, rather, you state a case that would support putting about 60% of American youth between the ages of 19 and 25 in protective custody.
What convent did you attend? The behavior described during her college years would have been considered pretty normal for a co-ed in my day. Except that the drug menu would have been much broader and more aggressive. (note: pot smokers don't kill people except when they drive or operate machinery. They are too busy trying to find the secret meaning in Cartoon Network or waiting, INTERMINABLY, for the pizza guy to arrive. Or maybe taking a long, hot shower with everyone else in their co-ed dorm - Ah, the memories!).
And what's 'the next level' all about? Is there some slippery slope down which you descend, without recourse, when you start to sleep with multiple partners or smoke pot? And this trail leads, ineluctably to rape and bloody murder?
Maybe she and her boyfriend really did kill Kercher (in a barocque and particularly savage way with no particular violence in either's past) and then frame an errant African for their crime. It's possible.
But Occam's Razor would insist that we also entertain the notion that, if so, they would have left some trace of themselves behind. And, absent such evidence that we entertain the notion that perhaps they really are innocent.
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I think there's a strong double standard with this sort of stuff. Most guys I knew would have had sex with as many good looking women they could, and in college, probably boozed it up everyday. Most of 'em hit the bong pretty regularly. They probably would have willingly let Amanda tie 'em up, too.
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Where have you read/heard this. I haven't seen anything close to this. You mean the Italian prosecutor could be right with all the satan stuff???
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So shes' a female Charlie Sheen?
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Here one of a number of articles about her: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...oxy-Knoxy.html
No, I think the satan worship theory is ridiculous. However, I also don't think she was a normal young fun-loving woman either - pretty disturbed, actually. .
That's about the most worthless source out there. They took bits and pieces from a jailhouse diary and placed it all out of context along with offering $40,000 to friends from school to give out dirt on her. This is the same paper that published that the appeal failed for around 30 minutes yesterday. Hardly an unbiased source.
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