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    Why Does American Airlines Hate America?

    Largest commercial aircraft deal in history goes green

    American Airlines just announced a huge $38 billion commitment to fuel efficient, climate-friendly airplanes with the purchase of 460 new aircraft. American hopes that this purchase will help get it out of its current financial troubles: In the second quarter, parent company AMR lost a whopping $286 million as increased fuel prices overwhelmed a boost in revenue.

    American is getting the majority of its new planes from European manufacturer Airbus, which has taken a commanding lead in production of the fuel efficient, climate-friendly aircraft the aviation industry is demanding. The move is a further blow to Boeing, the traditional U.S. market leader, which has struggled to keep pace: American hadn't ordered an Airbus plane in 20 years.

    Among the planes American is ordering from Airbus is the A320neo, which the company says is 15 percent more fuel efficient than aircraft currently in service. The neo was the star of the Paris Air Show, where Airbus racked up a further 730 new plane orders, compared to just 142 for Boeing.

    As I wrote a few weeks ago, Airbus' success at delivering the fuel efficient, climate-friendly planes airlines are demanding is giving Europe an enormous green jobs dividend. Its lead at the Paris air show alone amounted to an estimated 1 million additional jobs for workers in Toulouse, Hamburg, and Seville, and today's announcement will deliver even more. This advantage didn't come from nowhere: It reflects a more intense focus on efficiency and climate in European business, driven in part by Europe's climate law, which is about to require emissions reductions in the aviation sector.

    Until the United States is willing to make a similarly ambitious effort to cut pollution and invest in green innovation, we may see more and more jobs in more and more sectors leaving our shores for those countries that are meeting the big, green demand increasingly driving business decisions around the world.

    Glenn Hurowitz is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy. You can follow his Twitter feed about forests, climate, and wildlife: @glennhurowitz.



    http://www.grist.org/business-techno...ory-goes-green

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    DAMN YOU, OBAMA!
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    I think his conclusion is flawed. I really don't see American Airlines as making a multi-billion dollar decision on the basis of the green-ness of the aircraft. Boeing simply doesn't, at the moment, have the fuel efficiency to match in that short haul segment.
    They will once they get the 787 fiasco behind them.
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    Climate friendly jets....lol....

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    Yep, its about the money. and thats's all it's about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldebaran View Post
    Largest commercial aircraft deal in history goes green

    American Airlines just announced a huge $38 billion commitment to fuel efficient, climate-friendly airplanes with the purchase of 460 new aircraft. American hopes that this purchase will help get it out of its current financial troubles: In the second quarter, parent company AMR lost a whopping $286 million as increased fuel prices overwhelmed a boost in revenue.

    American is getting the majority of its new planes from European manufacturer Airbus, which has taken a commanding lead in production of the fuel efficient, climate-friendly aircraft the aviation industry is demanding. The move is a further blow to Boeing, the traditional U.S. market leader, which has struggled to keep pace: American hadn't ordered an Airbus plane in 20 years.

    Among the planes American is ordering from Airbus is the A320neo, which the company says is 15 percent more fuel efficient than aircraft currently in service. The neo was the star of the Paris Air Show, where Airbus racked up a further 730 new plane orders, compared to just 142 for Boeing.

    As I wrote a few weeks ago, Airbus' success at delivering the fuel efficient, climate-friendly planes airlines are demanding is giving Europe an enormous green jobs dividend. Its lead at the Paris air show alone amounted to an estimated 1 million additional jobs for workers in Toulouse, Hamburg, and Seville, and today's announcement will deliver even more. This advantage didn't come from nowhere: It reflects a more intense focus on efficiency and climate in European business, driven in part by Europe's climate law, which is about to require emissions reductions in the aviation sector.

    Until the United States is willing to make a similarly ambitious effort to cut pollution and invest in green innovation, we may see more and more jobs in more and more sectors leaving our shores for those countries that are meeting the big, green demand increasingly driving business decisions around the world.

    Glenn Hurowitz is a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy. You can follow his Twitter feed about forests, climate, and wildlife: @glennhurowitz.



    http://www.grist.org/business-techno...ory-goes-green
    You wouldn't know it from reading that story, but AA ordered 200 planes from Boeing and 260 from Airbus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pphilfran View Post
    Climate friendly jets....lol....
    You really have to stretch the meaning of "green jobs" to include jet aircraft...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sappstuf View Post
    You wouldn't know it from reading that story, but AA ordered 200 planes from Boeing and 260 from Airbus.
    They have a very large number of aging aircraft to replace and sometimes one manufacturer can't meet their demand.

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    It's a huge amount of dollars saved on fuel over time


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    Super 80's suck. I'm glad they're going away and I don't care if the new planes come from Mars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUHOMER View Post
    Yep, its about the money. and thats's all it's about
    Based on the split order, it probably had to do more with getting the planes quickly. You have to reserve these things 5 years out and AA's fleet of MadDogs is nearing end of life. By splitting the order between Boeing/Airbus they could probably get 40 planes a month instead of 20 or so.

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    Cockpit looks a lot like the MD-80's they will be replacing too.


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    what do they make them out of? plywood held together by tree sap?

    gonna be ****ty when these "green" airplanes start dropping out of the sky.
    There's few things in the world that can't be fixed by the liberal application of duct tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkm, the stolen pifwafwi View Post
    Based on the split order, it probably had to do more with getting the planes quickly. You have to reserve these things 5 years out and AA's fleet of MadDogs is nearing end of life. By splitting the order between Boeing/Airbus they could probably get 40 planes a month instead of 20 or so.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GKeeper316 View Post
    what do they make them out of? plywood held together by tree sap?

    gonna be ****ty when these "green" airplanes start dropping out of the sky.
    Sure they will.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    that guy is as boring as watching 2 old people ****.

    has anyone told him the crappy picture behind him is crooked? i swear a monkey produced that video.
    There's few things in the world that can't be fixed by the liberal application of duct tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    They have a very large number of aging aircraft to replace and sometimes one manufacturer can't meet their demand.
    I thought Boeing nearly had a monopoly on passenger aircraft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KantoSooner View Post
    I think his conclusion is flawed. I really don't see American Airlines as making a multi-billion dollar decision on the basis of the green-ness of the aircraft. Boeing simply doesn't, at the moment, have the fuel efficiency to match in that short haul segment.
    They will once they get the 787 fiasco behind them.
    What fiasco was that? I thought the A380 was the fiasco.

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    The A320's are plenty tough.


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