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    Let us now bitch about this

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...7072114.column



    In Gold Cup final, it's red, white and boo again

    Mexico rallies for a 4-2 win over U.S. behind overwhelming support at Rose Bowl. In what other country would the visitors have home-field advantage?

    Fans cheer prior to the Gold Cup Final at the Rose Bowl. The U.S. team was roundly booed as a vast majority of attendees supported Mexico, which won 4-2. "We're not booing the country, we're booing the team," one fan said.

    It was imperfectly odd. It was strangely unsettling. It was uniquely American.

    On a balmy early Saturday summer evening, the U.S soccer team played for a prestigious championship in a U.S. stadium … and was smothered in boos.

    BILL PLASCHKE

    Its fans were vastly outnumbered. Its goalkeeper was bathed in a chanted obscenity. Even its national anthem was filled with the blowing of air horns and bouncing of beach balls.

    Most of these hostile visitors didn't live in another country. Most, in fact, were not visitors at all, many of them being U.S. residents whose lives are here but whose sporting souls remain elsewhere.

    Welcome to another unveiling of that social portrait known as a U.S.-Mexico soccer match, streaked as always in deep colors of red, white, blue, green … and gray.

    "I love this country, it has given me everything that I have, and I'm proud to be part of it," said Victor Sanchez, a 37-year-old Monrovia resident wearing a Mexico jersey. "But yet, I didn't have a choice to come here, I was born in Mexico, and that is where my heart will always be."

    On a street outside the Rose Bowl before the Gold Cup final, Sanchez was hanging out near a motor home that was hosting 17 folks — 15 of whom were Mexico fans. Inside, that ratio held, there seemingly being about 80,000 Mexico fans among the announced crowd of 93,420.

    This was Staples Center filled with Boston Celtics fans. This was Chavez Ravine filled with Giants jerseys. This was as weird as it was wild and, for a U.S. team that lost, 4-2, it had to be wearisome.

    "Obviously … the support that Mexico has on the night like tonight makes it a home game for them," said U.S. Coach Bob Bradley, choosing his words carefully. "It's part of something we have to deal with on the night."

    It wasn't just something. It was everything. I've never heard more consistent loud cheering for one team here, from the air horns to the "Ole" chants with each Mexico pass, all set to the soundtrack of a low throbbing roar that began in the parking lot about six hours before the game and continued long into the night.

    Even when the U.S. scored the first two goals, the Mexico cheers stayed strong, perhaps inspiring El Tri to four consecutive goals against a U.S. team that seemed dazed and confused. Then when it ended, and the Mexican players had danced across the center of the field in giddy wonder while the U.S. players had staggered to the sidelines in disillusionment, the madness continued.

    Because nobody left. Rather amazingly, the Mexico fans kept bouncing and cheering under headbands and sombreros, nobody moving an inch, the giant Rose Bowl jammed for a postgame trophy ceremony for perhaps the first time in its history.

    And, yes, when the U.S. team was announced one final time, it was once again booed.

    "We're not booing the country, we're booing the team," Sanchez said. "There is a big difference."

    Mexico soccer fans have long since proven to be perhaps the greatest fans of any sports team that plays in this country, selling out venues from here to Texas to New Jersey, dwarfing something like Red Sox Nation, equaling any two SEC football fan bases combined.

    But eventually, the rules for their unrequited love get tricky. Because eventually, Mexico ends up playing the U.S. team on U.S. soil. And then folks start wondering, as they surely did Saturday, is it really right for folks who live here to boo and jeer as if they don't?

    "I know, it's strange, and when we got here, we were a little worried," said Roy Martinez, a U.S. fan who wrapped himself in an American flag and led "USA" cheers to passing cars outside the stadium before the game. "But, you know, it works."

    It was truly strange but, in the end, it indeed worked, perhaps because there is pride in living in one of the only countries where it could work.

    How many places are so diverse that it could fill football stadiums with folks whose roots are somewhere else? How many places offer such a freedom of speech that someone can display an American flag on their porch one day and cheer against the flag the next?

    I hated it, but I loved it. I was felt as if I was in a strange place, and yet I felt right at home.

    Certainly, for the U.S. team, it undoubtedly stinks. But then, well, to be honest, the team stinks.

    All the misguided hopes that surrounded their advancement into the second round of the 2010 World Cup — We beat Algeria, whoopee! — have come crashing down in recent lackluster play under Bradley.

    If this were any other country, Bradley would have been relieved by now. But because U.S. expectations remain sadly low, he is allowed to continue guiding a team whose mistakes and missteps led to the Mexico comeback.

    Long after that comeback was complete, when the stadium was finally cleared and the party had moved to the parking lot, the Rose Bowl field contained scattered patches of blue and gold celebration glitter. It was messy, and mangled, and beautiful.
    could care less for soccer but it's kind of sad
    And CA boasts it's 'diversity'

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    who gives a ****. it is soccer

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    'Calm down Greg, it's soccer' :p

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    I blame Obama.
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    Re: Let us now bitch about this

    Why would the US Soccer Federation put the Gold Cup final in CA? Go somewhere like Seattle where the US actually has home field advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIB View Post
    Why would the US Soccer Federation put the Gold Cup final in CA? Go somewhere like Seattle where the US actually has home field advantage.
    prolly cuz they wanted to sell tickets..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87sooner View Post
    prolly cuz they wanted to sell tickets..
    Seattle is one of the best soccer cities in the country. A Gold Cup final involving the US easily sells out. You only put the final in CA, if you don't have faith that the US is going to make the final.

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    that's okay Messicans, we still made you sign the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIB View Post
    Why would the US Soccer Federation put the Gold Cup final in CA? Go somewhere like Seattle where the US actually has home field advantage.
    Isn't the CONCACAF the one in charge of venues? As a general rule of thumb, that organization sucks the donkey dick.

    Quote Originally Posted by DIB View Post
    Seattle is one of the best soccer cities in the country. A Gold Cup final involving the US easily sells out. You only put the final in CA, if you don't have faith that the US is going to make the final.
    This. Sounders FC has the best fans in the MLS, although that's not saying a whole lot.

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    Re: Let us now bitch about this

    I think the worst part of that whole fiasco today, aside from losing to them, was that the celebration ceremony was in "Spanish." Not Spanish and English, but just Spanish. Where else in the world would that have happened?

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    Re: Let us now bitch about this

    Quote Originally Posted by DIB View Post
    Why would the US Soccer Federation put the Gold Cup final in CA? Go somewhere like Seattle where the US actually has home field advantage.

    USSF has nothing to do with game location selection for the Gold Cup.

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    Not really mentioned in Plaschke's article, but the entire postgame ceremony was in Spanish. Many of the American players said something along the lines that it was a f***ing disgrace, just like their defense (ok, I added that last part).



    Edit: Bread beat me to it.
    Last edited by SoonerHoops; 6/26/2011 at 10:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBread View Post
    I think the worst part of that whole fiasco today, aside from losing to them, was that the celebration ceremony was in "Spanish." Not Spanish and English, but just Spanish. Where else in the world would that have happened?
    The announcer spoke English during the entire part where the U.S. received its silver medals, and was very gracious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yankee View Post
    As a general rule of thumb, any and all international soccer organizations suck the donkey dick.
    fify

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanJoaquinSooner View Post
    The announcer spoke English during the entire part where the U.S. received it's silver medals, and was very gracious.
    It's America. We speak English here. Should have been done in English and trasnlated to Spanish, just like what happens anywhere else in the world. Olympics, World Cup, etc.

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    Re: Let us now bitch about this

    Quote Originally Posted by SanJoaquinSooner View Post
    The announcer spoke English during the entire part where the U.S. received its silver medals, and was very gracious.

    I'm sure you are 100% correct. I just saw Howard's quote and a few other blips about the postgame and honestly haven't had time to read much more about it. Thanks for the correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBread View Post
    Thank you for correcting me about the ceremony being exclusively in Spanish.
    de nada.
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    Maybe if we want the ceremony to be in English, more joe-six packs should have bought tickets. 80k paid to root for Mexico, 15k for the US.
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    When is CA gonna just break off into the ocean? I though that was supposed to happen sometime. I'm eager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanJoaquinSooner View Post
    Edit: nm
    besa me cula, pinche cabron.
    Last edited by SoonerBread; 6/27/2011 at 03:21 AM.

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