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    Goodbye Ethanol

    U.S. Senate approves Coburn amendment to kill ethanol subsidies

    After voting it down earlier in the week, the Senate reversed course and approved legislation authored by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Muskogee, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., that would end ethanol subsidies.

    By CHRIS CASTEEL NewsOK.com
    Published: 6/16/2011 2:34 PM
    Last Modified: 6/16/2011 2:34 PM


    WASHINGTON — Two days after rejecting Sen. Tom Coburn's move to kill ethanol subsidies, the Senate on Thursday reversed course and overwhelmingly approved the legislation he authored with a California Democrat.


    Democrats had objected to Coburn's aggressive move to force a vote on Tuesday, but proved Thursday that they agreed with his core arguments that ethanol production shouldn't be subsidized by taxpayers.

    The vote on Thursday was 73 to 27 for the amendment, written by Coburn, R-Muskogee, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.
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    Re: Goodbye Ethanol

    nice
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    Re: Goodbye Ethanol

    interesting

    i prefer to imbibe mine anyway

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    Unless you kill the mandates you aren't going to kill ethanol. Even without the tax credit, it's still profitable to blend to 10%.
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    Re: Goodbye Ethanol

    then why am i paying for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    then why am i paying for it?
    Do I look like a ****ing member of the Government?
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    I have no problem with ethanol per se, I have a great deal of problem using a food stuff to make ehtanol.
    Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.

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    Re: Goodbye Ethanol

    Iowa will revolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumanAlphabet View Post
    I have no problem with ethanol per se, I have a great deal of problem using a food stuff to make ehtanol.
    Considering that most of the corn that gets turned into ethanol still gets used as livestock feed, just as it would otherwise, I find that argument to be overblown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by royalfan5 View Post
    Considering that most of the corn that gets turned into ethanol still gets used as livestock feed, just as it would otherwise, I find that argument to be overblown.
    like you know anything about corn......wait..

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    Re: Goodbye Ethanol

    I have a problem with ethanol being mandatorily produced and included in our fuel supply.

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    If ethanol is economically viable on its own then it won't disappear just because we don't subsidize it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oudanny View Post
    If ethanol is economically viable on its own then it won't disappear just because we don't subsidize it.
    and we don't mandate that it be placed into our fuel supply. then we can tell if it's economically viable.
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    i hope it's gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspokieokie View Post
    i hope it's gone.
    It's not going to completely away because there is no substitute oxgenating agent since MTBE was banned.
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    It was actually a nice bipartisan vote with 33 Repubs and 38 Dems voting yes.

    Royal fan is correct that the mandate remains for something like 36 billion gallons annually of ethanol. So I guess that means since there is a guaranteed buyer, farmers will continue to do it.

    I wonder how many gallons would be produced if the mandate was lowered to 10 billion....

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    Quote Originally Posted by royalfan5 View Post
    It's not going to completely away because there is no substitute oxgenating agent since MTBE was banned.
    MTBE was some good stuff....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sappstuf View Post
    It was actually a nice bipartisan vote with 33 Repubs and 38 Dems voting yes.

    Royal fan is correct that the mandate remains for something like 36 billion gallons annually of ethanol. So I guess that means since there is a guaranteed buyer, farmers will continue to do it.

    I wonder how many gallons would be produced if the mandate was lowered to 10 billion....
    10,000,000,000

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    Yeah, just has a great affinity for water...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sappstuf View Post
    It was actually a nice bipartisan vote with 33 Repubs and 38 Dems voting yes.

    Royal fan is correct that the mandate remains for something like 36 billion gallons annually of ethanol. So I guess that means since there is a guaranteed buyer, farmers will continue to do it.

    I wonder how many gallons would be produced if the mandate was lowered to 10 billion....
    Farmers are going to grow a lot of corn, ethanol or no ethanol. It's the most productive use of the high grade soil in the Midwest.
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