Bill tells Dems to cut the Medicare scare tactics..

[sappstuf]

Good luck with that. He even offers Paul Ryan help.

“So anyway, I told them before you got here, I said I’m glad we won this race in New York,” Clinton told Ryan, when the two met backstage at a forum on the national debt held by the Pete Peterson Foundation. But he added, “I hope Democrats don’t use this as an excuse to do nothing.”

Ryan told Clinton he fears that now nothing will get done in Washington.

“My guess is it’s going to sink into paralysis is what’s going to happen. And you know the math. It’s just, I mean, we knew we were putting ourselves out there. You gotta start this. You gotta get out there. You gotta get this thing moving,” Ryan said.

Clinton told Ryan that if he ever wanted to talk about it, he should “give me a call.” Ryan said he would.

Former President Bill Clinton, still widely considered one of his party’s foremost politicians, said on Wednesday that Democrats should cut a “reasonable” deal with Republicans on Medicare savings rather than conclude from Tuesday’s upset in a special Congressional election that bashing Republicans on the issue is the key to a party comeback in 2012…

“You shouldn’t draw the conclusion that the New York race means that nobody can do anything to slow the rate of Medicare costs. I just don’t agree with that,” Mr. Clinton said at a budget forum sponsored by the Peter G. Peterson Foundation. Instead, he said, “you should draw the conclusion that the people made a judgment that the proposal in the Republican budget is not the right one. I agree with that.”…

Mr. Clinton, with some passion, returned to the topic at the end of an hour-long interview. “I think the Democrats are going to have to be willing to give up, maybe, some short-term political gain by whipping up fears on some of these things — if it’s a reasonable Social Security proposal, a reasonable Medicare proposal. We’ve got to deal with these things. You cannot have health care devour the economy.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/201...e-a-call-.html

Damnation. Bill Clinton telling Dems to stop the campaign of FEAR! and come up with a reasonable plan. I'm sorry to tell him, but I don't think the Dems in power now CAN come up with a reasonable plan...

Of course we all understand that Ryan's plan wouldn't touch anyone 55 years and older, but that hasn't stopped the Dems from the demonization.

I do admire their subtlety in this commercial though..

[delhalew]

Those adds were very unfortunate. I'm glad somebody told em they were blowing it.

[2121Sooner]

And then he went to console Maria Shriver

[hawaii 5-0]

Suppose you're 54 years old. You've been putting money into Medicare for 30 years.

Them someone comes along with a plan to take all that money you've invested in your retirement health plan and gives you $3,000 and tells you to go out and buy your own insurance.

Don't mind that as you've aged you've now got diabetes, heart failure, obesity, hypertension, osteoporosis, a bad back, knees and hips from arthritis, and maybe cancer. Now, how far does that $3,000 voucher get ya?

Oh, and at the same time, no one has done a thing about curbing the health insurance companies from raising your premiums.

And to top it off, let's give a nice fat tax break if you make over a half-million dollars and can actually afford the proposed Health Plan.


It really paints a woeful picture for anyone in Congress who actually stood up, supported and voted for this Piece of Shlt legislation.


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Trump/ Gaga 2012

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

So let me get this straight, Newt tells the Republicans to stop being loons..Clinton tells the Democrats to stop being fear mongers...Maybe the world is about to end

[The Profit]

This is a great issue for Democrats. We are going to use it until election day in 2012. Look what the gop did with the Medicare issue during the health care debate.

[bigfatjerk]

This is a great issue for Democrats. We are going to use it until election day in 2012. Look what the gop did with the Medicare issue during the health care debate.

If the Dems keep going their way in about 20 years medicare won't exist because there will be no money to pay for it. Good luck with fighting for that in 20 years. In reality they may win in the short term but they won't exist as a party in the long term if we keep avoiding fixing this issue. I don't really like Paul Ryan's plan. It isn't that much different from what we have right now really. It just allows the people to basically use what the politicians use in health care. No plan the democrats put out does this. There's a reason thousands of companies and some states have basically gotten out of the health care plan. It's a bad deal.. I would like a completely free market approach to health care. Where the individual can decide what they need in their plan completely. Basically take all government controls out of it.

[delhalew]

Suppose you're 54 years old. You've been putting money into Medicare for 30 years.

Them someone comes along with a plan to take all that money you've invested in your retirement health plan and gives you $3,000 and tells you to go out and buy your own insurance.

Don't mind that as you've aged you've now got diabetes, heart failure, obesity, hypertension, osteoporosis, a bad back, knees and hips from arthritis, and maybe cancer. Now, how far does that $3,000 voucher get ya?

Oh, and at the same time, no one has done a thing about curbing the health insurance companies from raising your premiums.

And to top it off, let's give a nice fat tax break if you make over a half-million dollars and can actually afford the proposed Health Plan.


It really paints a woeful picture for anyone in Congress who actually stood up, supported and voted for this Piece of Shlt legislation.


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Trump/ Gaga 2012

That free insurance will sure beat a kick in the teeth, which is what the Democrats lies are going to get you.

[REDREX]

Why don't the Dems put out a plan?----Only a fool would believe that the current plan is not going broke

[The Profit]

Why don't the Dems put out a plan?----Only a fool would believe that the current plan is not going broke

We might after the election, but first, we are going to scare the hell out of everyone 50 years old or older.

[REDREX]

We might after the election, but first, we are going to scare the hell out of everyone 50 years old or older.

--- Just shows that all the Dems care about is getting reelected and not the good of the country----Medicare has $40 Trillon in unfunded liability ---no way to tax your way out of this mess

[StoopTroup]

That free insurance will sure beat a kick in the teeth, which is what the Democrats lies are going to get you.

For 20+ years I paid into a plan that would help with any payments that would pick up where Medicare stops and now some folks what to sell it out for a couple of bucks an hour as many of us near having to actually use the plan....

Yep....

It's democrats that are the problem.

Folks.....when you find out that greed is the real problem and that we should be putting people in Office who will either put the folks who have defrauded Americans for the last 20 years in jail or force them to start paying up....

You'll then understand why some of us are turning on Republicans and Democrats.

[virginiasooner]

We might after the election, but first, we are going to scare the hell out of everyone 50 years old or older.

I'm scared already -- I don't want my in-laws moving in with me! As for the commercials showing the Eddie Munster lookalike wheeling Granny over the cliff, I say MORE OF THEM.

[StoopTroup]

I'm scared already -- I don't want my in-laws moving in with me! As for the commercials showing the Eddie Munster lookalike wheeling Granny over the cliff, I say MORE OF THEM.

Yup...

And I don't mind if they are Dems or Pubs killing old people in the commercials they are both not very nice people........Clinton is calling them all out and doing so correctly.

[delhalew]

For 20+ years I paid into a plan that would help with any payments that would pick up where Medicare stops and now some folks what to sell it out for a couple of bucks an hour as many of us near having to actually use the plan....

Yep....

It's democrats that are the problem.

Folks.....when you find out that greed is the real problem and that we should be putting people in Office who will either put the folks who have defrauded Americans for the last 20 years in jail or force them to start paying up....

You'll then understand why some of us are turning on Republicans and Democrats.

I'm not convinced that you are less of a partisan hack than Profit. That's why I avoid talking politics with you. I find hard to understand how a guy like you ended up with your opinions.

[StoopTroup]

I'm not convinced that you are less of a partisan hack than Profit. That's why I avoid talking politics with you. I find hard to understand how a guy like you ended up with your opinions.

It's hard to discuss things like this when we make rational points based on real world experience

[delhalew]

Yup...

And I don't mind if they are Dems or Pubs killing old people in the commercials they are both not very nice people........Clinton is calling them all out and doing so correctly.

Clinton was doing what he does best. Talking out both sides of his mouth.

[sappstuf]

We might after the election, but first, we are going to scare the hell out of everyone 50 years old or older.

Right.. Even though it doesn't change anything for people over 55. The Dems stance is, "We don't know what the F&*^ to do, but we will scare everyone and kick the bucket down the road".

Even Bill can see that will not work.

I like the Dem plan.. Cause when the money runs out, it will run out. Medicare will collapse and old people like you and your generation will die off sooner.. Helps with Medicare, SSN, pretty much everything. By time I get up there, it will have been built back up on the money that was saved by the genocide caused by the Dems.

Let's do it.

[delhalew]

It's hard to discuss things like this when we make rational points based on real world experience

That's kind of the problem. It's about perspective. My perspective makes the majority of you sound like space aliens, and vice versa, I would imagine.

[The Profit]

Yup...

And I don't mind if they are Dems or Pubs killing old people in the commercials they are both not very nice people........Clinton is calling them all out and doing so correctly.

ST, Clinton is playing the game, and doing a great job. He will be the good guy publicly, and let the DNC be the bad guys. In the meantime, he is sending me letters asking for donations to the DNC. Clinton is smart enough to know that the Medicare issue alone can give the dems states like Florida.