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    POTUS relations with England suffering

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ni...-2011-edition/

    In March last year I published a list of Barack Obama’s biggest insults against America’s biggest ally Great Britain, during his time in office. A lot of water has flown under the bridge since then, including the Gulf oil spill and the White House’s campaign against BP, the now infamous Obama-Sarkozy press conference earlier this year, and the release by Wikileaks of US government documents revealing the Obama administration had betrayed Britain in order to appease the Russians over the New START Treaty.

    In honour of President Obama’s state visit to Britain this week, here’s an updated and revised list, as a reminder to readers of the president’s less than stellar track record when it comes to US-British relations. The US president will no doubt be careful not to offend his hosts when he travels to London, and he will receive a warm welcome from the Queen and the Prime Minister, as any American president would. But the prospect of an embarrassing diplomatic gaffe or insensitive remark cannot be ruled out from a world leader whose administration has all too often specialised in them. As I noted in my original piece:

    Without a shadow of a doubt, Barack Obama has been the most anti-British president in modern American history. The Special Relationship has been significantly downgraded, and at times humiliated under his presidency, which has displayed a shocking disregard for America’s most important partner and strategic ally.

    There are a multitude of reasons for President Obama’s dismissive approach to the UK, and here are a few: an obsession with engaging and appeasing America’s enemies rather than cultivating allies; personal animosity towards Britain because of his grandfather’s role as a Mau Mau supporter in 1950’s colonial Kenya; Democrat resentment over British support for the Bush Administration over Iraq; left-wing disdain for the idea of Anglo-American exceptionalism and world leadership; support for supranational institutions such as the European Union over the supremacy of the nation state.
    I would be interested to see a rebuttal to these points, if it is possible.
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    They are all fawning over themselves after his highness's "academic" and "intellectual" speech to parliment today...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumanAlphabet View Post
    They are all fawning over themselves after his highness's "academic" and "intellectual" speech to parliment today...



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    Sounds like they are pissed we cut off their drilling of OUR oil off the Coast of America.

    Maybe folks at Amoco shouldn't have sold their souls to the Brits back in the 1990's.

    I'm thinking he might have got it right but it's tough letting everybody else drill when they have been nothing but dicks and liars about cleaning up the Gulf. Again...we continue to bag on our President when BP is trying to screw him because he's cut them off.

    It's to bad they don't try and appease him instead of ruin him. I'd say we should let Britain know the ought to leave Northern Ireland and then they can drill in the Gulf again. Well....maybe not....but that's politics. We have really sold our little guys interest in America by allowing Companies like BP to walk freely into our Country and take a dump on us.

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    Maybe, but he's not punishing BP, infact, BP is selling some of it's refineries in the states now.

    What he has done is punished a lot of the normal everyday people who had nothing at all to do with that accident but are paying the price for the drilling ban
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    Re: POTUS relations with England suffering

    Exactly.
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    Re: POTUS relations with England suffering

    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    Sounds like they are pissed we cut off their drilling of OUR oil off the Coast of America.

    Maybe folks at Amoco shouldn't have sold their souls to the Brits back in the 1990's.

    I'm thinking he might have got it right but it's tough letting everybody else drill when they have been nothing but dicks and liars about cleaning up the Gulf. Again...we continue to bag on our President when BP is trying to screw him because he's cut them off.

    It's to bad they don't try and appease him instead of ruin him. I'd say we should let Britain know the ought to leave Northern Ireland and then they can drill in the Gulf again. Well....maybe not....but that's politics. We have really sold our little guys interest in America by allowing Companies like BP to walk freely into our Country and take a dump on us.


    Yeah it really sucks when foreign-owned companies come over here and hire hundreds upon thousands of Americans.

    I hate it when they do that.

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    US/UK relations ebb and flow. Reagan and Thatcher were exceptionally close, though Maggie seemed to think Ronald rather mentally challenged. Bush I had his personal history to fall back on. Clinton was a Euro-Poodle and was bound to appeal to Labor. Bush II? A bizarre love affair with Tony Blair that probably had more to do with Blair's penis envy and religious instability. Going back further, Wilson? MacMillan? Nixon? LBJ? None had particularly close relations with their 'cousins'. Hell, Eisenhower cut England and France off at the knees during the Suez crisis, resulting in the loss of the remnants of Empire East of the Med.
    Obama? I think he falls pretty much in the middle of the pack as far as the Brits are concerned. There'll be a bit of residual racism, as there is here (and Prince Phillip is a screaming racist), but not to worry.
    And, as to 'protocol'? **** it. IT IS NOT IMPORTANT NOW, NEVER HAS BEEN. He with the most divisions tends to set the table manners.
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    I just don't like the way he's handled it. I can understand not pandering to them, but at least don't be an ******* about it.
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    Fair enough.

    Though the Brits can be awfully condescending. Were I in his shoes, it would have taken about one 'boy' or the like from some toff and it'd be 'Welcome to Chicago'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerboomer93 View Post
    Maybe, but he's not punishing BP, infact, BP is selling some of it's refineries in the states now.
    The only way BP can distance itself from their poor management and safety record IS to sell the Texas City refinery. While they are at it, they should hand over the management of the Alaska pipeline. They have so mismanaged it, it is crumbling and leaking...
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    Re: POTUS relations with England suffering

    I don't think Obama did anything to BP that they didn't do to themselves. It's not like he's excluded them from any future lease sales or told them they can't operate any more in the Gulf or nationalize the Alaskan Pipeline.

    Now, what he did to businesses on the Gulf coast is another matter.

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    Re: POTUS relations with England suffering

    Quote Originally Posted by soonerboomer93 View Post
    Maybe, but he's not punishing BP, infact, BP is selling some of it's refineries in the states now.

    What he has done is punished a lot of the normal everyday people who had nothing at all to do with that accident but are paying the price for the drilling ban
    Punishing? Hell, they stopped by BP and filled up the entourage yesterday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner11JK View Post
    Yeah it really sucks when foreign-owned companies come over here and hire hundreds upon thousands of Americans.

    I hate it when they do that.
    Were you one of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sappstuf View Post
    Punishing? Hell, they stopped by BP and filled up the entourage yesterday.
    So filling up a few cars is gonna help them along huh? LOL

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    Re: POTUS relations with England suffering

    The Founding Fathers thought the English could sod off as well.
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    Re: POTUS relations with England suffering

    The POTUS' agenda should be only to advance and preserve this country. Just because we don't kiss up to England every time it doesn't mean the POTUS is anti-British. What a ridiculous charge: anti-British. As if Obama works against anything the UK does.

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    Re: POTUS relations with England suffering

    I just wished the bloody queen would have kicked him in his royal junk.

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    I hope her ship sinks and Kate's 1st born looks like this....


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    Re: POTUS relations with England suffering

    England hates Obama so much they asked him to address the complete Parliament.

    Previously only addressed by the Queen, the Pope, Nelson Mandela and Charles DeGaulle.

    Yep, they really don't like the POTUS.


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