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    Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    This thread has serious potential. I expect an intelligent, spirited and uplifting discussion to follow.

    Well done, vet!
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Someone is going to have to explain to me how an exam, being an inanimate object, can discriminate against someone.
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Spray View Post
    This thread has serious potential. I expect an intelligent, spirited and uplifting discussion to follow.

    Well done, vet!
    Thank ya, Thank ya.


    Quote Originally Posted by delhalew View Post
    Someone is going to have to explain to me how an exam, being an inanimate object, can discriminate against someone.
    Agreed. What I dont understand is If Im gonna hire X number of Peeps for a Position and I administer a test then say To be considered I will only look at peeps in a certain Percentile, Then when I have 4 times the # that I need . I decide Im gonna start with the Highest scores 1st. And fill my quota . Then every one else is SOL. Try again next time.
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Vet, you black. You be a Chicago Fireman?
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    I predict good things from this thread

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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Flagstaffsooner View Post
    Vet, you black. You be a Chicago Fireman?
    I should have applied. Hell look at all the money I could have gotten from doing nothing to earn it cept score a barely passin score.
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    I just dont understand how a 64 on the exam means something but getting an 89, presumably better than a 64 because it is a higher number, isnt a better score and wouldnt make you a better firefighter?
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraggle145 View Post
    I just dont understand how a 64 on the exam means something but getting an 89, presumably better than a 64 because it is a higher number, isnt a better score and wouldnt make you a better firefighter?
    You and I are clearly having trouble understanding the base argument of this case.

    Maybe someone who nearly failed in school can explain it to us.
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Welllll- the exam was deemed discriminatory in its application, so its was going to disproportionately disqualify African Americans on its face. The court determined most minorities would fall in the 64-89 range, ensuring that only whites got into the "lottery".

    So the test, in its actual application, results in discrimination and we have a winner for this episode of "American Justice Today".
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Spray View Post
    Welllll- the exam was deemed discriminatory in its application, so its was going to disproportionately disqualify African Americans on its face. The court determined most minorities would fall in the 64-89 range, ensuring that only whites got into the "lottery".

    So the test, in its actual application, results in discrimination and we have a winner for this episode of "American Justice Today".
    Right. You understand that that was complete bull****, right. Because I could have spit out that same tired line, but that wouldn't have made it so.
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Spray View Post
    The court determined most minorities would fall in the 64-89 range,
    so the court is saying minorities are stoopider than non minorities?






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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    I've been on test construction panels for California. You have to show how each test question relates to the job. If they're just general aptitude type questions asking the applicant to figure out something that one does not need to figure out on the job, then it may be good material for lawsuits. And now they have bias panels that review the tests for possible bias.
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongo View Post
    so the court is saying minorities are stoopider than non minorities?






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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    That's a simplified (admittedly, very) version of the court's analysis- no **** whatsoever. It's a pretty standardized way of looking at all kinds of tests, employment policies, etc. that may result in discrimination.

    I didn't write the rules- decades of American jurisprudence did.
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongo View Post
    so the court is saying minorities are stoopider than non minorities?






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    Heh.

    No, the court is saying that the test is saying that the test writers are saying minorities are stoopider than non-minorities.
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Spray View Post
    That's a simplified (admittedly, very) version of the court's analysis- no **** whatsoever. It's a pretty standardized way of looking at all kinds of tests, employment policies, etc. that may result in discrimination.

    I didn't write the rules- decades of American jurisprudence did.
    That's my point. The law looks at it that way, but we all know it's a straw man.
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Quote Originally Posted by Spray View Post
    Heh.

    No, the court is saying that the test is saying that the test writers are saying minorities are stoopider than non-minorities.
    I dont care about what the courts say. I want Yalls honest opinion about the Outcome
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Well, without reading the opinion I'd say its probably a fair application of the law by the Circuit Court that can certainly be left open for review by the Supreme Court (which probably won't happen).

    How's that for hedging? All that law schoolin' didn't go completely to waste, huh?
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    Re: Racism? I despise Chicago but Yall read this

    Oh so yer "ONE OF THEM?"
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