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    Trump Not Conservative I

    Would a true conservative try to use eminent domain to throw an old lady off of her property (pay a significantly discounted value) in order to build a casino?
    NO!

    Casino Reinvestment Development Authority v. Coking
    The Abuse of Eminent Domain in Atlantic City


    Vera Coking won her fight for her Atlantic City home against a New Jersey state agency and Donald Trump.

    “Individual freedom finds tangible expression in property rights.” This statement, penned by U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, recognizes how central property rights are to a free society.

    Yet, with increasing frequency, federal, state, and local governments bow to political and economic expediency and trample the rights of property owners.

    Vera Coking, an elderly widow from Atlantic City, knows firsthand the power of unaccountable government agencies. The Institute for Justice successfully defended Vera against the condemnation of her home by a State agency that sought to take her property and transfer it—at a bargain-basement price—to another private individual: Donald Trump. Trump convinced the State agency to use its “eminent domain” power to take Vera’s home so he could construct a limousine parking lot for his customers—hardly a public purpose. And unfortunately, cases in which government agencies act not as protectors of constitutionally guaranteed rights, but instead as agents for powerful, private interests, have become all too common.

    Thanks to IJ’s advocacy, Vera Coking won in court and continues to enjoy her home of more than three decades.
    http://www.ij.org/privateproperty/1002
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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Your serious? That is exactly what conservatives do! DUH!

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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerKnight View Post
    Your serious? That is exactly what conservatives do! DUH!
    He said "true conservative," which means "liberal."
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    At least I'm not Jersey Sooner.

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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    "Winning isn't everything, its the ONLY thing." - Vince Lombardi

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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Mr. Potter was the conservative and George Bailey was the lib.
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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Big wup! Is he a total socialist like his gloriness, the POTUS Obumblephk? Hardly. Just don't vote for the Donald in the repub primary, and hope and pray he doesn't run as a GDI.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerKnight View Post
    Your serious? That is exactly what conservatives do! DUH!
    My thoughts as well.

    Donald has more skeletons in his closet than a graveyard.

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    Unhappy Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Sorry guys, but true Constitutional Conservatives do not confiscate private property for the "public good" of a larger tax base! EVA!
    Do you hear that Mr. Mayor?
    How can there be too many children?
    That is like saying there are too many flowers.
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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Some people should wake up and see what the political party is up to.




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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by soonercruiser View Post
    Sorry guys, but true Constitutional Conservatives do not confiscate private property for the "public good" of a larger tax base! EVA!
    Do you hear that Mr. Mayor?
    Eminent Domain should only be used to build schools, fire stations, etc. That Connecticut case that came before the Supremes a few years ago was a shocking outcome. I felt sure that the takings would be overturned. But since then over 40 states passed laws that said those types of takings were illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by virginiasooner View Post
    Eminent Domain should only be used to build schools, fire stations, etc. That Connecticut case that came before the Supremes a few years ago was a shocking outcome. I felt sure that the takings would be overturned. But since then over 40 states passed laws that said those types of takings were illegal.
    Why was the Conn case so shocking when the exact same thing jad been done hundreds of times to build sports facilities which were either private or built to serve one or two private companies?

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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by SanJoaquinSooner View Post
    Mr. Potter was the conservative and George Bailey was the lib.
    True.

    Potter ran a successful bank while Bailey ran a bank that was on the verge of bankruptcy (through poor lending practices) and under investigation for embezzlement.
    Last edited by okie52; 4/16/2011 at 03:46 PM.

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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by soonercruiser View Post
    Sorry guys, but true Constitutional Conservatives do not confiscate private property for the "public good" of a larger tax base! EVA!
    Do you hear that Mr. Mayor?
    You have spent waaaaaaaaaay to much time working for the government. Political leanings have almost nothing to do with a business decision.

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    Thumbs down Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by diverdog View Post
    You have spent waaaaaaaaaay to much time working for the government. Political leanings have almost nothing to do with a business decision.
    Yup! Guess I need to throw out the "right vs. wrong" rule of living.
    Everything in the liberal, regressive world is gray.....very gray.
    (And, some dark, poopy brown)
    How can there be too many children?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diverdog View Post
    You have spent waaaaaaaaaay to much time working for the government. Political leanings have almost nothing to do with a business decision.
    Heck.. even I disagree with that. Legal =/= moral.

    Trump using his political gravitas to kick an old lady out of her home so Trump can profit is bad juju even if it's legal. Even if it's good business.

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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    Heck.. even I disagree with that. Legal =/= moral.

    Trump using his political gravitas to kick an old lady out of her home so Trump can profit is bad juju even if it's legal. Even if it's good business.
    Corporations rarely weigh on moral decisions. That is a simple fact of life. They drive earnings to pump up the bottom line. A little old is not going to stand in the way of profits.....sad to say.

    If you guys want to vote for Trump then you had better get away from any illusion that he is a nice guy. Trump is as ruthless as the come and he is a street bully. Either get out of his way or get crushed. Maybe he will make a good President but I do not see it. Governing is a completely different animal than running a business. He will not like that he cannot make decisions without being second guessed by congress.
    Last edited by diverdog; 4/17/2011 at 07:45 AM.

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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    True.

    Potter ran a successful bank while Bailey ran a bank that was on the verge of bankruptcy (through poor lending practices) and under investigation for embezzlement.


    That's right. The lower middle class George Bailey, was nearly incorrectly arrested for embezzlement, but it was the upper class Potter, who was actually guilty of grand larceny, and who should have been put in the penitentiary.

    At the end of the day (actually Christmas eve) Democrat George Bailey discovered what he should have already known. The townsfolk loved and admired him, and were willing to come to his assistance. He also found out that God loved him and watched over him, while the same God continued to condemn the evil Republican Potter to his wheelchair.
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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    Heck.. even I disagree with that. Legal =/= moral.

    Trump using his political gravitas to kick an old lady out of her home so Trump can profit is bad juju even if it's legal. Even if it's good business.
    You are right, but it's VERY tame compared to intentional bankruptcy of an entire country(ours). Trump/Obumblephk 24-7
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Trump Not Conservative I

    Quote Originally Posted by The Profit View Post
    That's right. The lower middle class George Bailey, was nearly incorrectly arrested for embezzlement, but it was the upper class Potter, who was actually guilty of grand larceny, and who should have been put in the penitentiary.

    At the end of the day (actually Christmas eve) Democrat George Bailey discovered what he should have already known. The townsfolk loved and admired him, and were willing to come to his assistance. He also found out that God loved him and watched over him, while the same God continued to condemn the evil Republican Potter to his wheelchair.
    Bailey was a loser..like most libs. Besides almost running his bank into the ground over poor lending practices, bungling caused by nepotism almost sent Bailey to jail. He was deaf in one ear, only high school educated, thought he talked to Angels and was suicidal.

    Potter, on the other hand, was able to overcome his handicap to become a successful banker through sound lending practices. A true fiscal conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    Bailey was a loser..like most libs. Besides almost running his bank into the ground over poor lending practices, bungling caused by nepotism almost sent Bailey to jail. He was deaf in one ear, only high school educated, thought he talked to Angels and was suicidal.

    Potter, on the other hand, was able to overcome his handicap to become a successful banker through sound lending practices. A true fiscal conservative.
    Pretty good.

    Amusing to hear some talk about how bad a President Trump would be as if the Clown that holds the office now is competent.

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