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    Two Charged in Tea Party Election Fraud

    Two former leaders of the Oakland County Democratic Party are facing a total of nine felonies for allegedly forging election paperwork to get fake Tea Party candidates on November's ballot.

    "It is not a partisan statement, and we need to make that very clear," said Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper.

    Former Oakland County Democratic Chair Mike McGuinness and former Democratic Operations Director Jason Bauer face up to 14 years in prison if convicted.

    "Some of the people didn't even know they were on the ballot till they began receiving delinquency notices of filings that were required as a candidate," said Oakland County Sheriff Michael Bouchard.

    The sheriff says 23 statewide races had questionable Tea Party candidates on the ballot and the investigation may go beyond Oakland County.

    "It was learned that a scheme was developed by a party leader in Lansing to place on the ballot people pretending to be Tea Party activists and that this was going to be a statewide effort," Bouchard said.

    John Tramontana, a spokesperson for the state Democratic Party, told FOX 2 that this was not a state party issue and it's not our place to comment.

    "What we have here is illegal. It's forgery. It's fraud. It's perjury. It's those things. Then you cross a different line," said Bouchard.

    It's not illegal to be a non-serious candidate. That's not what's being alleged here. What is being alleged is that the people that were on the ballot were phony candidates and that they got there by fraudulent means. That's the crime.
    http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news...d-20110316-mr#

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    i'm not quite understanding what was going on here. what were they trying to do?

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    I'm guessing it was an attempt to diffuse the tea party vote.

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    They were signing up people to be candidates that had no idea that they were candidates. They were signing forms for people without the authority to.

    And in the end they were trying to dilute the vote on the Repub side by throwing up different candidates.

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    I'm betting it was more like a stunt gone wrong that they'll learn a real life Civics Lesson from.

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    "It was learned that a scheme was developed by a party leader in Lansing to place on the ballot people pretending to be Tea Party activists and that this was going to be a statewide effort," Bouchard said.
    i guess it is the "pretending to be" part that was throwing me off

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    i'm not quite understanding what was going on here. what were they trying to do?
    Swamp the number of tea party candidates to split the vote and dumbs win the elections...
    Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    The Nazis used to do this kind of stuff.

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    i guess it is the "pretending to be" part that was throwing me off
    Same here. I suppose some of the candidates volunteered to play a role.
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    At least I'm not Jersey Sooner.

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    The ole Joseph Russo play. Joe Kennedy is smiling somewhere, probably in hell.
    12 yards long, 2 lanes wide,
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    Nazis, Kennedy, election fraud, if someone mentions Alinsky with the free space I could win a new placard with Ben Franklin on it.
    Boomer Sooner

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    Now it's StoopTroup's turn to argue that doing such things is perfectly acceptable.
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    At least I'm not Jersey Sooner.

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    You know who else commits political fraud? Unions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Lizard View Post
    Now it's StoopTroup's turn to argue that doing such things is perfectly acceptable.
    Funny you say that....I just saw on the news that the guy from NPR who was supposedly caught on tape was found to be the victim of an extremely over-edited video.

    I don't just jump on the Nancy Grace Bitch Execution Court like you do.

    Have you ****ed off yet?

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    What? No way. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!!

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    Quote Originally Posted by KABOOKIE View Post
    You know who else commits political fraud? Unions.
    and....


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    I'm betting it was more like a stunt gone wrong that they'll learn a real life Civics Lesson from.
    Give me a break!
    Two Charged in Tea Party Election Fraud
    Two former leaders of the Oakland County Democratic Party are facing a total of nine felonies for allegedly forging election paperwork to get fake Tea Party candidates on November's ballot.
    A "stunt" would be by two teenagers not knowing the impact!
    These guys are your typical LW ALINSKYIAN thugs.
    "Book 'em Daniel"!
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    That is like saying there are too many flowers.
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    (Or, too many tax-payers!)

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    40 year smack! HAHAHAHA.

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    Quote Originally Posted by soonerscuba View Post
    Nazis, Kennedy, election fraud, if someone mentions Alinsky with the free space I could win a new placard with Ben Franklin on it.
    That didn't take long.

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    Re: If you can't beat them... Commit Fraud.

    Quote Originally Posted by soonercruiser View Post
    Give me a break!


    A "stunt" would be by two teenagers not knowing the impact!
    These guys are your typical LW ALINSKYIAN thugs.
    "Book 'em Daniel"!
    Ummmm....do you have a bio on them or are you gonna do the Nancy Grace Bitch Execution Trial too?

    You could be right...I just don't think it's that big a deal. I'm not really sure if it accomplished anything. They got caught and if they are convicted...what are the penalties? Death? Money? Community Service? Not being able to Vote again? Flogged and threatened with drawing and quartering if they do it again?

    Seriously...you act like the biggest gheyest ultra liberal when you find something on Democrats. It's pretty funny to watch your chicken little outrage.

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