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    Angry DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Since when do state budget issue become national political issues??
    The latset news is that the Demoncrat Nat Committee and Obama's "Organizing For America" are organizing and busing in 25,000 teachers into Madison?

    DNC playing role in Wisconsin protests
    http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...s.html?showall

    http://www.barackobama.com/

    Democratic National Committee reportedly behind Wisconsin protests
    http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/17/de...nsin-protests/

    ABC's One-Sided Take on Wisconsin Protests Includes an Interview With Top Secret, Hidden Democrat
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...oulos-highligh
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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Since when does an Arizona Immigration issue become National Political Issues?

    If you are implying that the DNC and the current POTUS are doing this and it's something that just now is an issue...you really need to go read a history book.

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Gov. Walker won't even talk to state workers about his proposal to strip them of their rights.
    "Right" is the most misused term in politics.
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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    OH NOES! A Top Secret, Hidden Democrat!

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by soonercruiser View Post
    ABC's One-Sided Take on Wisconsin Protests Includes an Interview With Top Secret, Hidden Democrat
    rofl. i read your linked article --- i don't fault abc for just focusing on the protests. C-SPAN doesn't make for very good TV, so the republican side would be boring. And showing the protests doesn't mean they're showing them in a positive light. All this "Hitler" talk while they're calling in sick when they obviously aren't sick does not, IMHO, show them in a very good light.

    I also lol at the fact that every midwest state gets referred to as "The Heartland." even wisconsin. i never thought of wisconsin as a heartland state. wisky is a great lakes state.

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Fire them.

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by oudanny View Post
    Fire them.
    People keep saying this. It's as if they are unaware that the primary function of a union is to project inferior employees from termination.

    In the private sector this can backfire when a company has to close shop due to profit loss. Luckily, the federal and state governments never seem to run out of our money to keep unions happy.
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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by delhalew View Post
    People keep saying this. It's as if they are unaware that the primary function of a union is to project inferior employees from termination.
    The primary job of these workers is to do their job, not be in a union. Unions are pretty much all about the union now.

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    Ya have to boink alot of kids to lose a teaching job....!!!!
    Hey... maybe T BOONE can pony up and start a Stilleater newspaper... but the players would probably just use it to roll the weed.

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Yeah... there's really no longer any reason for labor unions.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...ild-labor-laws

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldebaran View Post
    Yeah... there's really no longer any reason for labor unions.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...ild-labor-laws
    I think that's a stretch. If a kid is in high school and wants a job, they should be able to do so. Modifying the age to 14 to get a job isn't like making a toddler do factory work.

    Try again....

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldebaran View Post
    Yeah... there's really no longer any reason for labor unions.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...ild-labor-laws
    Quote Originally Posted by Huffy Post
    "It's kind of a common sense thing," she tells The Huffington Post. "Right now, it's so over the top with regulations -- what businesses have to do, schools have to do. Parents should be in charge, deciding on the work ethic of their children."

    Cunningham says that children are still protected by law from working in "dangerous jobs, like coal mines, with animals, with blades or involving dangerous stunts." She says that her bill simply loosens an overly broad prohibition on child labor and would allow kids to work at movie theaters, to babysit or to cut lawns, blaming the hysteria on union "misinformation" and politics.
    Hopefully the unions will protect us from this gross injustice.

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Some unions are actually very good, some give unions a bad name. Take the Teamsters, for example, at least the local here in OKC. If an employee is an effup, they're probably more afraid of retribution from the union than the employer. The union will come in and set that employee straight or clear the way to get rid of 'em. Contrast that with the Postal Employees' Union (or whatever it's called)... boy oh boy they suck. They protect the hell out of absolutely terrible employees, who are sometimes even physically unable to do their work.

    Unions, by and large, are a good thing in the private sector. I'm not sold that they're a good thing in the public sector.

    In the private sector, the labor market is increasingly controlled by employers. This becomes especially more true when employees have no collective power. Collective bargaining actually makes the bargaining process between labor and management a much more fair process. And at the end of the day, it's just employees doing the smart thing in a free market economy. They should be looking out for their own interests.

    A big part of the problem with unions recently has been that they have started to think like their employers. They look at things in the short term and not the long term. Short term squeezing the employer for every last cent beats (for some reason) making sure that the employer remains solvent.
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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aldebaran View Post
    Yeah... there's really no longer any reason for labor unions.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...ild-labor-laws
    Someone didn't read the article~
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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    I have Cruiser on ignore, but I've come to enjoy reading the subject line of his posts. They are always good for a chuckle.

    ZOMG OBAMA BEHIND AGUILERA ANTHEM FLUB??

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Not sure if this is exactly pertinent to this particular thread but since we are discussing unions, I thought I would share my favorite personal interaction with one of the many unions I deal with at work.

    I used to work for an insurance company in a sales position which required me to call on unions to inquire about them offering our insurance to their folks. So anyway, I get a lunch appointment with the grand pubah of the local electrical workers union to see if I/we have a chance. After a nice steak and 18 bud lights consumed by my new friend (to my two Bud Heavy's - still have receipt to prove it) we start get to where he is opening up about how they run their operations. I will never forget how is eyes kind of glossed over and he started glaring at me as if I was the enemy while he proudly stated they "put 9 non union companies out of business in the last year and put families in the street. You are either with us or we are going to do anything we can to eliminate you. Anything."

    Freaked me out. Needless to say, I no longer pursued this prospect due to the fact I had no desire to tick this guy off. Also kind of sealed the deal on my opinion of unions.

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Once upon a time, unions were beneficial to workers. But the pendulum has swung too far in their direction and they are holding corporations and taxpayers hostage. There are enough federal regulations now to protect workers. Unions have become what they once were against.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldebaran View Post
    Yeah... there's really no longer any reason for labor unions.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...ild-labor-laws
    Huffington Compost!!!????
    GMAFB!

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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by soonercruiser View Post
    Huffington Compost!!!????
    GMAFB!

    (Planned Parenthood Times is more like it...)
    With Republican congressmen picking up women now, it seems they should be all in with Planned Parenthood.
    Last edited by soonerscuba; 2/18/2011 at 06:56 PM.
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    Re: DEM NATIONAL COMMITTEE AND OBAMA BEHIND WISC PROTESTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by soonercruiser View Post
    Huffington Compost!!!????
    GMAFB!
    It's certainly no newsbusters.org

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