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    If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

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    The Iceman Cometh: The Rise of a Gourmet Ice Entrepreneur


    Michel Dozois is pinning the success of his two-year old company on the dubious thrills of watching ice melt.

    When courting new clients, Dozois, the owner of Los Angeles's Névé Luxury Ice Company, sits them down for a simple experiment. He fills two Old Fashioned glasses with ice—the first with conventional cubes, the second with his company's "ice rock," a single large cube, which takes up about 50 percent of the glass—and tops them with a dram of good whisky (his spirit of choice is Laphroig). Dozois then asks the potential clients to sit back and wait, allowing nature to take its course.

    About every seven minutes, he asks the client to take a sip—first of the conventional drink where the ice is rapidly melting, then of the drink made with the sturdy opaque brick of Névé ice. The second shows minimal dilution; it's essentially whisky served neat, but much, much colder.

    "Every cocktail calls for different dilution, different ice, different needs," Dozois explains.
    But Dozois's pitch isn't only about taste. He insists that less dilution also benefits a bar's bottom-line. "If your body can take this much fluid," explains Dozois, gesturing to several glasses, "How much of that do you want to be water? If it dilutes less, it will take you less time to drink what's in the glass, and the bar will make more sales."

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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    If this isn't Thunder nip, then I don't know what is.
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Dumb, hand cut ice? It's ****ing frozen water... I don't think that tiny amount of melted water in my drink from melted ice is going to cause me to drink any less or any slower. And if I was really concerned about it "diluting" my whiskey I would get those refreezable metal ice cubes.

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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Quote Originally Posted by jumperstop View Post
    Dumb, hand cut ice? It's ****ing frozen water... I don't think that tiny amount of melted water in my drink from melted ice is going to cause me to drink any less or any slower. And if I was really concerned about it "diluting" my whiskey I would get those refreezable metal ice cubes.
    Those color the flavor of the whiskey.

    I'm a heretic, I like to chew the ice cubes, and not have to worry about an iceberg hitting my lips.
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Quote Originally Posted by The View Post
    Those color the flavor of the whiskey.

    I'm a heretic, I like to chew the ice cubes, and not have to worry about an iceberg hitting my lips.
    I didn't know your drank your Jägermeister over ice?
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Quote Originally Posted by saucysoonergal View Post
    I didn't know your drank your Jägermeister over ice?
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Or, instead of buying this guys product, a bar could simply buy a few of these:

    http://www.chefsresource.com/king-cu...ed-tovolo.html

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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Quote Originally Posted by saucysoonergal View Post
    If this isn't Thunder nip, then I don't know what is.
    That's a little over the top. I only use one cube of ice with my scotch as not to dilute it much. However, our ice is purified.
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Actually, many experts say to lightly dilute with ice cold water, NOT to put ice into a SM. That is why it is preferred to ask for scotch neat with a small glass or carafe of ice water. It is meant to dilute the heavy alcohol odor blast that inhibits scotch and takes away from the actual notes that add to the experience of tasting it.
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    It's true that the shape and hardness of the ice changes the flavor of the alcohol. I think gourmet ice is a bit much, though. Best to just have an ice block and learn to chip your own if you're that into it.
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    who needs ice?

    i'm just swigging from the bottle most of the time

    i'm liking this idea though. i'm not sure how much $$$ it's worth, but people don't pay enough attention to the thermodynamics involved with ice in my drink

    it always annoys me when i go somewhere that doesn't use enough ice and my drink is just a watered down mess with a couple of tiny pieces of ice floating in it, whether there is booze in it or not

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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    I drink my whiskey out of a gallon bucket with a couple of those blue ice packs in it.

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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Whiskey: I just drink the stuff.
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Drink faster. Melting problems solved.
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    yeah, decent stuff doesn't really need anything with it

    i guess i have a new whisky to try though

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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    It appears to me that there is no advantage to the large ice cube. Less surface area means less melting, but that also means less cooling. The fact that the ice is melting simply means that it is soaking up the thermal energy from the surrounding whiskey, which means it's doing its job.

    In other words, if you don't want water in your whiskey, don't put any ice in it. Problem solved.
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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    i was thinking the same thing. it says it offers the same amount of cooling with less melting. i guess that's possible if the one cube was large enough to make up for the difference, but i really doubt the math on that works out

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    Re: If you’re not drinking gourmet, hand-cut ice with your whiskey

    Ice with Scotch? how sad.

    Ice with Bourbon is okay, but as has been observed above, if you're worried about melting ice, you're not sippin' quick enough!
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