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    Was this guy ranting like that when Bush was in office who, by the way, had virtually the exact same immigration policy? Did he scream like that when Bush refused to pardon two border patrol agents who were doing their job trying to stop an illegal drug runner?

    I'm not saying Obama is any better (he isn't), but Bush ought not get a pass.

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    The hypocrisy among conservatives who see all the fault with Obama and never saw it with Bush is astounding. I mean seriously....the hypocrisy is so thick that if you stop and think about it you can literally smother to death under its weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    The hypocrisy among conservatives who see all the fault with Obama and never saw it with Bush is astounding. I mean seriously....the hypocrisy is so thick that if you stop and think about it you can literally smother to death under its weight.
    It's why I'm not completely believing that Obama can be scared out of office.

    Whoever is going to beat him better have something else in their bag or tricks. Barry will not go easy into the night IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    It's why I'm not completely believing that Obama can be scared out of office.

    Whoever is going to beat him better have something else in their bag or tricks. Barry will not go easy into the night IMO.
    No he's not. People like Tuba who keep calling him a "1 term President" are getting way way way the hell ahead of themselves. It's still a long way to 2012 and honest to God who, on the GOP side, has the appeal, star power, and gravitas to win the Presidency? I can't think of any. There is a serious leadership vacuum in the GOP right now, and I don't know who can fill it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    No he's not. People like Tuba who keep calling him a "1 term President" are getting way way way the hell ahead of themselves. It's still a long way to 2012 and honest to God who, on the GOP side, has the appeal, star power, and gravitas to win the Presidency? I can't think of any. There is a serious leadership vacuum in the GOP right now, and I don't know who can fill it.
    I agree totally.

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    because the leaders of the modern republican party (limbaugh and beck) dont care about public policy, and having a pub in the white house is actually contrary to what they are really after... your hard earned cash.
    There's few things in the world that can't be fixed by the liberal application of duct tape.

    Those who say winning isn't everything are the people you want to play against.

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    And gold....lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    Was this guy ranting like that when Bush was in office who, by the way, had virtually the exact same immigration policy? Did he scream like that when Bush refused to pardon two border patrol agents who were doing their job trying to stop an illegal drug runner?

    I'm not saying Obama is any better (he isn't), but Bush ought not get a pass.
    You're delusional to believe many conservatives(true, neocon, semi, whatever type of conservatives)were happy with the things you mentioned about Bush.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    You're delusional to believe many conservatives(true, neocon, semi, whatever type of conservatives)were happy with the things you mentioned about Bush.
    I didn't say they were happy -- I'm saying they gave him a pass which they did until MAYBE the final few months. Where were these giant rallies of conservatives screaming to the heavens about Bush increasing the size of the Federal government?

    Like I said, it's a truly astounding display of hypocrisy. And what it shows is that, in the end, for most it has nothing to do with conviction and everything to do with being a cheerleader for the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    I didn't say they were happy -- I'm saying they gave him a pass which they did until MAYBE the final few months. Where were these giant rallies of conservatives screaming to the heavens about Bush increasing the size of the Federal government?

    Like I said, it's a truly astounding display of hypocrisy. And what it shows is that, in the end, for most it has nothing to do with conviction and everything to do with being a cheerleader for the party.
    You can't work up a widespread fervor against someone who's right about some things, and not as severely wrong about practically anything as those folks in the D party, who stand for things in their platform that are socialist and authoritarian, being wrong about virtually everything, like the gang running the country now. YOU EFFING KNOW THAT. Stop acting so clueless, or naive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    The hypocrisy among conservatives who see all the fault with Obama and never saw it with Bush is astounding. I mean seriously....the hypocrisy is so thick that if you stop and think about it you can literally smother to death under its weight.
    Hypocrisy is also portrayed by those who screamed about Bush being out of control yet blindly defend Obama at the very mention of his name -- even though Obama not only picked up where Bush left off, but jumped on the accelerator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    You can't work up a widespread fervor against someone who's right about some things, and not as severely wrong about practically anything as those folks in the D party, who stand for things in their platform that are socialist and authoritarian, being wrong about virtually everything, like the gang running the country now. YOU EFFING KNOW THAT. Stop acting so clueless, or naive!
    I'm neither clueless nor naive. Bush was right about a few things; however, it may surprise many to know that Obama has been right about a few things as well. The point is, in both cases, they're overwhelmingly wrong and the differences between the two are negligible.

    The pass given to George W. Bush by so-called conservatives is indefensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    I'm neither clueless nor naive. Bush was right about a few things; however, it may surprise many to know that Obama has been right about a few things as well. The point is, in both cases, they're overwhelmingly wrong and the differences between the two are negligible.

    The pass given to George W. Bush by so-called conservatives is indefensible.
    Nobody's giving him a pass. If you think W was/is even remotely near as loony left as our current president(and it appears you do) then, bully for you. I didn't see you and your purists rallying in protest. Only saw goofy leftists demonstrating. So, are there any democrats you're going to vote for in Nov?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    I'm neither clueless nor naive. Bush was right about a few things; however, it may surprise many to know that Obama has been right about a few things as well. The point is, in both cases, they're overwhelmingly wrong and the differences between the two are negligible.

    The pass given to George W. Bush by so-called conservatives is indefensible.
    We're pretty much opposite sides of the same coin. I don't like Obama precisely because he pretty much carried on the lion's share of Bush's astoundingly stupid policy. I think Obama is a smart and good man, and certainly a role-model for stability and good standing among the black population, but that doesn't mean he's a good president. Unless it's Palin or some equally anti-intellectual, hypocritical blowhard (looking at you Newt), I'm being staying home Nov 2012, so when the bitter end finally comes I can say that I stayed out of it. Republicans nor Democrats have shown they have the ability or desire to push policy that does anything more than protect corporate interest, estate taxes are intuitively wise and individually mandated handouts to insurance companies via reconciliation isn't a "first step", it's retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddub0224 View Post
    Hypocrisy is also portrayed by those who screamed about Bush being out of control yet blindly defend Obama at the very mention of his name -- even though Obama not only picked up where Bush left off, but jumped on the accelerator.
    Good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    Nobody's giving him a pass. If you think W was/is even remotely near as loony left as our current president(and it appears you do) then, bully for you. I didn't see you and your purists rallying in protest. Only saw goofy leftists demonstrating. So, are there any democrats you're going to vote for in Nov?
    Philosophically, there's no doubt Obama is much further to the left than Bush. Purely on policy though there's very little difference between the two.

    In any case, you may not have seen me, but I was out there screaming to the heavens about Bush to anyone who would listen. In fact, I can tell you the last straw when Bush totally lost me as a supporter...it was the prescription drug program. Specifically, I was at a convention of a political organization I belonged to in college and we were having lunch with Rep. Pete Sessions. He was attempting to defend his vote in favor of the drug program and even tried, ridiculously, to defend it as being in the best interest of conservatism. That's when I found out about the strong-arm tactics used by DeLay and the rest of the GOP leadership to manipulate and threaten conservative members of congress into voting for the bill. That's when I totally lost any faith I had in the national Republican Party. Ever since then I've spent my time supporting legitimate conservatives and screaming to the heavens about the ills of the GOP.

    What the Republican Party needs is a purge. I'm talking a Stalin like purge of so called "big government conservatives", neocons, and the radical evangelicals. I'm talking blood in the streets style purges. The reality is that there are TONS of good conservatives out there and in the party on the local and state level, but the national GOP leadership needs to be totally and completely purged. Currently there are only 3 members of the Senate who deserve the honor of being called a conservative and those members are Tom Coburn, Jim DeMint, and Jeff Sessions. Plus, there's a dozen or so in the house but that's it. The party apparatus itself needs to be purged starting with Michael Steele all the way down to the janitors at RNC HQ.

    Off with their f'in heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerscuba View Post
    We're pretty much opposite sides of the same coin. I don't like Obama precisely because he pretty much carried on the lion's share of Bush's astoundingly stupid policy. I think Obama is a smart and good man, and certainly a role-model for stability and good standing among the black population, but that doesn't mean he's a good president. Unless it's Palin or some equally anti-intellectual, hypocritical blowhard (looking at you Newt), I'm being staying home Nov 2012, so when the bitter end finally comes I can say that I stayed out of it. Republicans nor Democrats have shown they have the ability or desire to push policy that does anything more than protect corporate interest, estate taxes are intuitively wise and individually mandated handouts to insurance companies via reconciliation isn't a "first step", it's retarded.
    I agree with every word of this, though as long as I am able to vote for a Libertarian alternative then I won't sit the election out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    I agree with every word of this, though as long as I am able to vote for a Libertarian alternative then I won't sit the election out.
    You and cuba are on the same team, whether you like it or not.
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