http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38489.html
Another policy that needs to be passed at the federal level. Thanks to Arizona for rolling the boulder up the hill with their nose.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38489.html
Another policy that needs to be passed at the federal level. Thanks to Arizona for rolling the boulder up the hill with their nose.
"Once a country boy's seen the way the steam rises off a man's insides on the sidewalk Tends to change the way he thinks, the way he sees everything when he goes back to where he came from."
POSSE TRANSPORTATION SPECIALIST. "It Fell Off the Back of a Truck."
Didn't we discuss this awhile back anyway?Originally Posted by Am. XIV, Sec. 1
"If your dream ain't bigger than you, there's a problem with your dream." -Deion Sanders
It's back. Arizona is preparing to move on it. Even though any finished bill will probably be very fair and possibly legal, I don't see this being a success anywhere but the federal level.
Even so it is reentering the news cycle, because Arizona keeps pushing.
"Once a country boy's seen the way the steam rises off a man's insides on the sidewalk Tends to change the way he thinks, the way he sees everything when he goes back to where he came from."
POSSE TRANSPORTATION SPECIALIST. "It Fell Off the Back of a Truck."
The boulder is about to roll back over and crush their widdwle white heads.
Reluctantly double secret Ninja-Maverick member of the Posse (in protest). That's right...Ice...Man...I AM dangerous.
"You have to be aware that there's a line where legitimate concerns begin to collapse into paranoid fantasy." - David Frum, Conservative author and speechwriter for President George W. Bush
Maybe. Those in the DOJ responsible for bringing suit against Arizona are the very same folks now being investigated for dismissing a case against Black Panthers with clubs screaming "you are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!", outside a polling station. Apparently adhering to the policy that no black on white voter intimidation cases will be prosecuted.The boulder is about to roll back over and crush their widdwle white heads.
So, yes, now is not a great time to be a cracker...or an American for that matter.
"Once a country boy's seen the way the steam rises off a man's insides on the sidewalk Tends to change the way he thinks, the way he sees everything when he goes back to where he came from."
POSSE TRANSPORTATION SPECIALIST. "It Fell Off the Back of a Truck."
IMO- This is one so clearly pre-empted and unconstitutional that it's a waste of AZ taxpayers' money to draft and fight for it. Although I agree with the premise.
Olevet Posse Bail Bondsman
"I searched through rebellion, drugs, diets, mysticism, religions, intellectualism and much more, only to begin to find that truth is basically simple - and feels good, clean and right"
- Chick Corea
Silly 'Zoners.
There are very few "slam-dunks" in cases involving constitutional law nowadays. However, if a party sued AZ on behalf of a child born in that state to whom AZ refused to issue a birth certificate doumenting its US citizenship by virtue of "Birth in the United States," and cited the Fourteenth Amendment, that would be a slam-dunk.
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.
"Without opportunities on the part of the poor to obtain expert legal advice, it is idle to talk of equality before the law"-- Justice Chas. Evans Hughes
I have to wonder how they expect to get around that. I know they plan on denying only children who have neither parent legal or in the process. I would think it would take an ammendment to accomplish this.
Nonetheless, Arizona is bringing an important issue to the national conversation. For that I commend them.
"Once a country boy's seen the way the steam rises off a man's insides on the sidewalk Tends to change the way he thinks, the way he sees everything when he goes back to where he came from."
POSSE TRANSPORTATION SPECIALIST. "It Fell Off the Back of a Truck."
They're trying to get around it by saying that someone who's born to someone here illegally isn't subject to the jurisdiction of the state or the United States, so the 14th doesn't apply.
Which is patently ridiculous and has been since Pennoyer v. Neff.
"The choices we discern as having been made in the Constitutional Convention impose burdens on governmental proceses that often seem clumsy, inefficient, even unworkable, but those hard choices were consciously made by men who had lived under a form of government that permitted arbitrary governmental acts to go unchecked." INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983) (Burger, C.J.)
I don't see a problem with the amendment and think Arizona is in the right.Didn't we discuss this awhile back anyway?
Loved By The People
"you are a disgusting pig and should be punished for such vile language. Would you like your mom to see that you wrote that? YOU=Disgusting pig."
"you lack any semblance of taste and suggest substandard upbringing and education"
"Guess what? You're a ****ing dildo!"
"You're an asshat!"
"racist pig by any chance?"
All they have to do is to get the legislatures of 33 states to agree. Good luck with that.
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.
"Without opportunities on the part of the poor to obtain expert legal advice, it is idle to talk of equality before the law"-- Justice Chas. Evans Hughes
The more it is discussed, the more states will support it.
"Once a country boy's seen the way the steam rises off a man's insides on the sidewalk Tends to change the way he thinks, the way he sees everything when he goes back to where he came from."
POSSE TRANSPORTATION SPECIALIST. "It Fell Off the Back of a Truck."
It's funny because some of the people pushing this bill are the same people who argue for the absolute authority of the Constitution when it comes to the 2nd Amendment.
It's a real shame when the Constitution limits your xenophobia, isn't it?
I'm not really Serge Ibaka: I was born and raised in Green Country and not in the Congo. But I do like giraffes.
Is there anything in your life that doesn't revolve around a court case?
You have a great point, but I think it's a little hyperbolic to say that everyone that feels that the offspring of illegal immigrants shouldn't be US citizens immediately is a "xenophobe." You're better than that.
Olevet Posse Bail Bondsman
"I searched through rebellion, drugs, diets, mysticism, religions, intellectualism and much more, only to begin to find that truth is basically simple - and feels good, clean and right"
- Chick Corea
I'm not sure that I am (considering the contradictions of that particular group).
I'm not really Serge Ibaka: I was born and raised in Green Country and not in the Congo. But I do like giraffes.
The Founding Fathers put the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights.
The Founding Fathers did not put this in the Bill of Rights.
"But the Founding Fathers were racist and had slaves!"
Yeah, and they lived a pretty good life if you ask me
Loved By The People
"you are a disgusting pig and should be punished for such vile language. Would you like your mom to see that you wrote that? YOU=Disgusting pig."
"you lack any semblance of taste and suggest substandard upbringing and education"
"Guess what? You're a ****ing dildo!"
"You're an asshat!"
"racist pig by any chance?"
What on earth would you base that on?
I suppose you also want to take away the right to vote from non-white people and women?
Let's reinstate Jim Crow, too, while we're at it.
Wait, no. I'm just kidding, and you don't make any sense.
I'm not really Serge Ibaka: I was born and raised in Green Country and not in the Congo. But I do like giraffes.
I'm not that radical. I'd prefer slavery just be reinstated.
Loved By The People
"you are a disgusting pig and should be punished for such vile language. Would you like your mom to see that you wrote that? YOU=Disgusting pig."
"you lack any semblance of taste and suggest substandard upbringing and education"
"Guess what? You're a ****ing dildo!"
"You're an asshat!"
"racist pig by any chance?"
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