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    Canada reassessing healthcare system

    http://www.aolhealth.com/2010/06/01/...th-care-model/

    This will be us in about 5 years. Canada only has to pay for 30 million people. You think it'll be easier to pay for about 300 million people?

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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    I wonder who decides what's "medically necessary"? Maybe a panel of some sort?
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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    Mama grizzlies!
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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    Why are they having trouble paying for healthcare in Canada? I thought it was free.

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    Nothing like that is perfect. I'd be more suspect if they didn't do reviews of the system and think that it was good enough. If the Gov't is reviewing it do to the costs...I'd think that would be seen as a good sign considering most folks here who are against Gov't run healthcare think it will bankrupt the U.S. and be a blank check

    I know the healthcare system we have in this Country isn't perfect as every Doctor I've seen in the last 6 months scares the **** out of me.

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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    It's not a fair comparison. Canada has a bunch of people who are going to become old within the next few years.

    Canada is also working to control other costs such as hospital executives' and doctors' independently set salaries and restricting costs for new medical technology and drugs.
    Wage and price fixing.
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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    ...very Doctor I've seen in the last 6 months scares the **** out of me.
    Well, you won't have this problem if the gub'ment decides your problem isn't "medically necessary."
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    That's the thing with me though...after 8 years of the Bush administration trying to scare the entire Country into thinking they had the answers...I really don't give a ****. Most of us are so screwed already that leaving it in it's current state won't matter either. I'm already scared so why would anything a lizard thinks would scare me more?

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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    That's the thing with me though...after 8 years of the Bush administration trying to scare the entire Country into thinking they had the answers...I really don't give a ****.
    I do.

    Well, not about you.
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    Bush didn't have the answers but no form of big spending, big government type thing has the answers. This is basically the Bush era on steroids. The debt went way up starting in Bush's 2nd term from about 6.5 trillion to around 9 trillion. Since Obama took over it's gone from 9 trillion to 13 trillion in 2 years! Eventually the debt will be too large to ignore and the government won't be able to pay for anything.

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    We'll all be working for the government by then, mowing the Mexican President's yard.
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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by ndpruitt03 View Post
    Bush didn't have the answers but no form of big spending, big government type thing has the answers.
    This is the type of canned response we get from nearly every person on the Fox Network and they are the same folks who were behind the Bush Administration that didn't do one damn thing to reduce the size of the Federal Gov't.

    Nick...

    Although you may believe all of that crap your saying...It's just my opionion that if there is someone that has all the answers to fix what is wrong....they are decades from being in a position to be able to actually do anything as the Republican and the Democratic Parties have a lock in giving you two people to choose from every four years.

    We're headed in the direction that the current powers that be have set us on and no amount of bitching or Fox Network viewpoints are probably going to be able to stop it. I have no faith that any Republican that is elected would be able to do anything about it either.

    One thing I do still have faith in is this....

    Americans have always answered the call when our Country is in real danger. Manufactured danger ended up with Barack Obama as POTUS.

    Any continued efforts by the Republican Party to manufacture danger will continue to empower the current administration IMHO.

    I truly believe the McCain Palin ticket tried to continue to manufacture danger and a thought that our Country was in so much trouble that there was only one answer and that was to elect them. Their job at selling that stuff was either not very good, not believable, not true or not the direction that most Americans had any faith in or they would be running this Country and leading us to the promised land that you think is possible without the Obama Administration.

    What you and they continue to do is try and scare us. Unless we do go bankrupt...I don't believe they will be able to beat Obama so the only way is probably give them a shot at what they have put into motion.

    I don't like change...but I also don't like being bald faced lied to either.

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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    This is the type of canned response we get from nearly every person on the Fox Network and they are the same folks who were behind the Bush Administration that didn't do one damn thing to reduce the size of the Federal Gov't.

    Nick...

    Although you may believe all of that crap your saying...It's just my opionion that if there is someone that has all the answers to fix what is wrong....they are decades from being in a position to be able to actually do anything as the Republican and the Democratic Parties have a lock in giving you two people to choose from every four years.

    We're headed in the direction that the current powers that be have set us on and no amount of bitching or Fox Network viewpoints are probably going to be able to stop it. I have no faith that any Republican that is elected would be able to do anything about it either.

    One thing I do still have faith in is this....

    Americans have always answered the call when our Country is in real danger. Manufactured danger ended up with Barack Obama as POTUS.

    Any continued efforts by the Republican Party to manufacture danger will continue to empower the current administration IMHO.

    I truly believe the McCain Palin ticket tried to continue to manufacture danger and a thought that our Country was in so much trouble that there was only one answer and that was to elect them. Their job at selling that stuff was either not very good, not believable, not true or not the direction that most Americans had any faith in or they would be running this Country and leading us to the promised land that you think is possible without the Obama Administration.

    What you and they continue to do is try and scare us. Unless we do go bankrupt...I don't believe they will be able to beat Obama so the only way is probably give them a shot at what they have put into motion.

    I don't like change...but I also don't like being bald faced lied to either.
    The problem is that Obama campaigned on being different when he's exactly the same and probably even worse than the republicans, which I bet nobody in here thought would be possible. Not even most of those on Fox. Everything Obama campaigned on from how bad Bush handled Katrina to the Washington Lobbyists, he's basically been just like Bush. Basically every campaign thing he said about how bad Bush was, is a lie because he is a big fan of how Bush ran the government apparently. He's running the government just like Bush except MORE government spending that they can't pay for.

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    Like any of us thought he'd run it with less.

    We all knew it was coming...I guess you've finally turned on the TV....lol

    To say that he's the same as Bush except for the spending is laughable. He's a lot smarter than Bush and his ideals are way different.

    Bush got two terms. It's all you get. Again...if you think it shouldn't be four more years of Obama....you better start finding a guy to replace him with and you better do it in a hurry.

    For me...the Republicans are simply waiting on Obama to make a or enough mistakes and get to the point that he's so unpopular that a blind porn star that drives a truck could get elected in 2012.

    If you think that will be any better...I have to say it...your crazy.

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    I don't think republicans can necessarily do better. Conservatism can do better. That's what the tea party is really all about. We need to quit all the spending quit all the taxing. Make it a flat tax. To where everyone pays about a certain % of taxes not just the rich paying for almost everything. Rich people find ways to beat tax it's a bad idea to lean on them to pay for everything, they find ways around it. Also the rich take up only about 1% of the population there's just not enough people in that range to pay for everything.

    So I propose a flat tax and a big cut in spending at least 50% in spending and probably much more than that. The last time we did anything similar to what I would want to do was the 1920s just after a depression. The 20s ended up being one of the most innovative and prosperous decades in US history. It probably would have continued if progressives didn't take over and tried to fix things. The more FDR tried to fix things the worse the economy got in the decade. Sound familiar?

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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    You should run for office.

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    Oh and I know that the real best tax system for a free market is a Fair Tax but I also know that it would basically take away government power and lobbyists in one swoop and won't ever happen unless Libertarians take over politics. Republicans and democrats would NEVER want a fair tax because it would take away most government power.

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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by SCOUT View Post
    Why are they having trouble paying for healthcare in Canada? I thought it was free.
    because there's nothing in canada to tax.

    you cant compare canada to the united states, for any reason... especially when you consider the fact that the overwhelming majority of canadians live within 30 miles of the us border.

    canada is just a northern version of backwoods alabama... without the summer heat.

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    Re: Canada reassessing healthcare system

    Quote Originally Posted by ndpruitt03 View Post
    Oh and I know that the real best tax system for a free market is a Fair Tax but I also know that it would basically take away government power and lobbyists in one swoop and won't ever happen unless Libertarians take over politics. Republicans and democrats would NEVER want a fair tax because it would take away most government power.
    why do you want to tax the fairs?

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