So the Egyptians and the Israelis Blockade the Gaza Strip
These arseholes wanta run the Blockade, The Israelis say NO WAY jose.
the dudes on the lead ship that are nuthing more than "Bussed in Protesters" start beatin the shat out of the Israeli Commandos.
Folks get hurt and killed cause they resisted this carp . Is Israel at fault ?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100531/...llout_analysis
Kinda like protestin the Japs whaling . Dont get in the ****ing middle and ya wont get hurt .
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What that article, and most of what the media is feeding, failed to state is that Israel did not refuse to allow humanitarian aid to be delivered. They required that the cargo be delivered to an Israeli port to be inspected so that they could determine that it was indeed humanitarian aid and not missles or other weaponry before being sent to Gaza.
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and good with ketchup.
They have to deal with weapons flowing in to Hamas. The reaction to this shows that the world is once again turning against the Jews, including our Pres. It's pretty sad.Originally Posted by AlbqSooner
"Once a country boy's seen the way the steam rises off a man's insides on the sidewalk Tends to change the way he thinks, the way he sees everything when he goes back to where he came from."
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Israel is a nation, not an ethnic group. One that has a detailed history of major *********gery, I'm all ears for the security purposes of banning all exports, and the import of toys, notebooks, chocolate, etc. This is done to turn to people against Hamas, an equally ****ty government. Basically, this whole idea of Israel being a benign force at worst to glorious God based holy land at best is a policy that has us sinking billions of dollars into a nation with no positive feedback. I am all for letting that whole section of the world rot, including Israel.
Boomer Sooner
The fact is, Israels actions were not out of line. They didn't even take rifles aboard the ship (stupid). The reaction of the international community shows some darker motive, as it is not fact based.
"Once a country boy's seen the way the steam rises off a man's insides on the sidewalk Tends to change the way he thinks, the way he sees everything when he goes back to where he came from."
POSSE TRANSPORTATION SPECIALIST. "It Fell Off the Back of a Truck."
I actually agree with you in a limited scope, I think Israel was fully justified in boarding the flotilla. If Israel would be so kind as to actually allow humanitarian aide without restriction into Gaza and exports out they might have a smidgen of credibility within the international community. I just don't like the fact that defenders run behind antisemitism every time Israel does something awful. That said, the Palestinians are just as bad in ideology and at least Israel doesn't foment reactionary behavior outside of the gasbags within the American evangelical movement.
Boomer Sooner
Israel is dealing with a group of people who take offers of compromise and displays of compassion as signs of weakness. What can you do?
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At least I'm not Jersey Sooner.
Dear gawd I need to just stay away from the South Oval anymore.
Israel's military boarded a civilian, humantarian flotilla in international waters. International waters. INTERNATIONAL WATERS.
Notwithstanding the ridiculousness of what Israel is doing to Palestine currently, if they needed to check the boats, wait until they're in port. Or hell, at least until they're in Israeli maritime territory.
Do you guys really think you're just so amazingly right and everyone else is wrong, including all of the countries that are upset, the head of the UN, so on and so forth? All the worlds needs to do is come to the S. Oval for the "real" skinny.
Olevet Posse Bail Bondsman
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You poor deluded soul. You really think that Israel is somehow equal to a terrorist group?? Well of course you do, why am I even asking!
Next thing you're going to tell us is how evil those joos are for defending themselves against armed "peace activists", right??? Oh wait, you already did. Never mind.
Armed Peace Activists. Armed Peace Activists. ARMED PEACE ACTIVISTS.
Good thing Egypt doesn't blockade Gaza as well.Upon learning of the intentions of the Gaza flotilla, the Israeli government asked the organizers to deliver their humanitarian aid first to an Israeli port where it would be inspected (for weapons) before being forwarded to Gaza. The organizers refused. “There are two possible happy endings,” a Muslim activist on board explained, “either we will reach Gaza or we will achieve martyrdom.”
Oh wait, nm...
If you think a bunch of chairs and knives and MAYBE a gun or two is "armed" then you're an even bigger doosh than I ever thought.
Olevet Posse Bail Bondsman
"I searched through rebellion, drugs, diets, mysticism, religions, intellectualism and much more, only to begin to find that truth is basically simple - and feels good, clean and right"
- Chick Corea
DEFENDING THEMSELVES? They rappelled down onto the boats illegally! I can't believe you believe these things.You poor deluded soul. You really think that Israel is somehow equal to a terrorist group?? Well of course you do, why am I even asking!
Next thing you're going to tell us is how evil those joos are for defending themselves against armed "peace activists", right??? Oh wait, you already did. Never mind.
Olevet Posse Bail Bondsman
"I searched through rebellion, drugs, diets, mysticism, religions, intellectualism and much more, only to begin to find that truth is basically simple - and feels good, clean and right"
- Chick Corea
And by chairs and knives, you mean guns loaded with ammo, right??
So you don't believe a country should defend it's borders or its ports?? Israel's been blockaiding Gaza for years, just like Egypt has, to keep the weapons they want to kill joos out.
Good call. I think the US Navy should start shooting at every boat in international waters that we don't like, too. ESPECIALLY non-military.
Something you may learn as you get older and wiser: if you pick your battles wisely, your credibility will increase.
Olevet Posse Bail Bondsman
"I searched through rebellion, drugs, diets, mysticism, religions, intellectualism and much more, only to begin to find that truth is basically simple - and feels good, clean and right"
- Chick Corea
No wonder the anti-American left loves the floating terrorists so much...
The flotilla’s participants included the IHH, a “humanitarian relief fund” based in Turkey that has close ties to Hamas and to global jihadi groups in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Chechnya, and elsewhere, and which has also organized relief to anti-U.S. Islamic radicals in Fallujah, Iraq. A French intelligence report suggests that IHH has provided documents to terrorists, permitting them to pose as relief workers. Among the other cheerleaders — former British MP and Saddam Hussein pal George Galloway, all-purpose America and Israel hater Noam Chomsky, and John Ging, head of UNRWA, the U.N.’s agency for Palestinian support.
Well, if the military asks them to do something and they don't, and the folks on the boat are armed, oh and they are terrorists, oh and they beat the hell outta one of your folks, then yes, deadly force should be used.
Terrorists?? They were terrorists!?!?! bwahahahhahaha.
I don't think the military is allowed to ask them to not be in international waters. OK, Tuba, tell you what, bring me lunch. Cuz I sed so.
Good gawd you don't know your elbow from your butthole sometimes. You know no one on the board takes you seriously, right? You must be a trip in real life.
Olevet Posse Bail Bondsman
"I searched through rebellion, drugs, diets, mysticism, religions, intellectualism and much more, only to begin to find that truth is basically simple - and feels good, clean and right"
- Chick Corea
Since they were attempting to run Israel's blockade of Gaza, they were allowed. Again, I know you're slow and don't understand what it means to protect borders and such, but that's how its done when your border consists of water.
Hell, we do it in international waters all the time to protect our shipping lanes, most recently from Somali pirates.
Slow? Only in 40yard sprints. I think we can tell who's a little slow on the uptake here:
1. You think humantiarian aid flotillas are the same as somali pirates.
2. You think it's OK for Israel to do anything they want to any boat in international waters.
3. We all know you'd be bleating like an idiot if anyone did that to US ships to "protect" their borders.
From a friend who puts it more eloquently than I:
We'll know more when and if full details come to light. What we know now is already damning enough -- Israel boarded a civilian plane not with police but with COMMANDO UNITS trained to kill. Not in broad daylight, where much confusion could have been avoided, but in the dead of night. Predictably, given the Israeli army's history of killing civilians with impunity, nine civilians were brutally killed, dozens more injured.
That's bad enough. Then they tell stories about people with sticks and kitchen knives attacking commandos first, and you automatically believe them. All I'm saying is that no one with any real knowledge of what Israel and its army are capable of would do that. It's possible the passengers were that foolish (even though technically -- and this is no academic exercise -- they had the right to defend themselves from being illegally and violently boarded in international waters), but it doesn't strike me as very plausible.
You would have to believe many things, some of them racist as well as divorced from reality, to automatically believe the brown people were the foolish martyrs and the armed Israeli commando soldiers the innocent victims acting within their rights, except perhaps for some meaningless academic arguments, which we can have at our leisure while people continue to die from the blockade in Gaza, and more directly on ships in the Mediterranean.
As you say, this is not an indictment of Israel or its policies. It's an example of Israel and its policies, splashed all over prime time, though of course dominated by absurd Israeli apologetics (OUMallen Edit: that's YOU). And still you defend them, trying, like Mark Regev and his slimy ilk, to deflect this from the crime and outrage it was and turn it into some kind of academic misunderstanding and innocent mistake exacerbated by violent brown people who should have known better than to mess with the powers that be.
Olevet Posse Bail Bondsman
"I searched through rebellion, drugs, diets, mysticism, religions, intellectualism and much more, only to begin to find that truth is basically simple - and feels good, clean and right"
- Chick Corea
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