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    SoonerFans.com Elite Member JLEW1818's Avatar
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    ok Republicans, myself included

    is this a fair statement for me to say?

    "A huge reason why the health care bill passed, is because Geroge W. Bush messed things up so bad, and gave away the seats in the house and senate to the dems?"

    don't be bias. is that statement somewhat legit?

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Wow, a new angle to "blame Bush".


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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Don't fall into the trap. This is Obama's baby now.


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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    so wait, when W passed medicare part d with shaddy back room deals and a razor margin...that was legit. now when the current goon in chief does the same thing it is break out the don't tread on me flags.

    give me a phuckin' break. either you think the gov't is to large and intrusive or you don't.

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    I'm far far far right

    but it seems the "majority" of America thought Bush did horrible.

    i want a yes or no to my question please!! no in between.

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBorn68 View Post
    Don't fall into the trap. This is Obama's baby now.
    I know this is Obama's stuff.

    but is a big reason why Obama and his socialist crew could pass this bill b/c of W and his failures?

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Quote Originally Posted by jlew1818 View Post
    I'm far far far right

    but it seems the "majority" of America thought Bush did horrible.

    i want a yes or no to my question please!! no in between.
    Good luck getting that from SoonerProphet......he usually let's the stick in his *** do the talking

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerProphet View Post
    so wait, when W passed medicare part d with shaddy back room deals and a razor margin...that was legit. now when the current goon in chief does the same thing it is break out the don't tread on me flags.

    give me a phuckin' break. either you think the gov't is to large and intrusive or you don't.


    I'm bascially saying Bush and Obama both suck as being president, economical wise

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Quote Originally Posted by jlew1818 View Post


    I'm bascially saying Bush and Obama both suck as being president, economical wise
    you are not going to get an argument from me there. seems as of late though that when dems are in office you at least know you are going to get a dry fist.

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Quote Originally Posted by Turd_Ferguson View Post
    Good luck getting that from SoonerProphet......he usually let's the stick in his *** do the talking
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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    I am not Republican and I would not say that. Don't get me wrong, I think the GW Bush administration will go down in history as being disastrous. He and the Democrat Congress sat around as US jobs were being exported overseas and Americans were making credit card payments by further leveraging off of their over-inflated house prices. Following that, there was no choice but in enact health care reform to take care of the ever increasing number of uninsured Americans. Adding in the problem of illegal immigrants, the health care system was just about to be overwhelmed anyway.
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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    so will we now have a bunch of insured unemployed citizens? or does it not work like that?

    not being sarcastic either

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Bush did substantial social spending that was leftist behavior. (He was certainly not consistently conservative) Some congressional repubs went along with him. The MSM did their normal job, and voila, democrats got voted in, some of them pretending to be fiscally conservative. Had Bush not done the social spending, you could make a case that republicans in congress would have been more conservative, and would have retained control. The whole deal of McCain getting the R. nomination in '08 is another story, IMO.
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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Quote Originally Posted by jlew1818 View Post
    so will we now have a bunch of insured unemployed citizens? or does it not work like that?

    not being sarcastic either
    Hopefully. Although the numbers of newly unemployed seem to be slowing, I still do not believe that the overall job market will improve much over the next several years. Having health insurance is at least one less stress to the temporarily unemployed and not so taxing on our system with costs being passed on to those with insurance. Okay, it will still be passed on but at least now you kinda know what to expect.
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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Yes. Bush sucked. The Republicans could have enacted a conservative agenda while in control but really became mini-democrats. Libs hate them. Conservatives were discussed by them. So they lost a lot of seats for raising the national debt etc...

    So 'yes'. This is accurate.
    Had the Repubs been conservative as they pretended to be, this would have never happened.

    Of course, if the Dems weren't far left nuts now and were moderate (as they pretend to be) this wouldn't have happened either.

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Quote Originally Posted by jlew1818 View Post
    I'm far far far right

    but it seems the "majority" of America thought Bush did horrible.

    i want a yes or no to my question please!! no in between.
    Ive looked at many different websites that rank all time presidential performance and while he certainly wasnt at the top of any of the lists, he was more towards the middle-high 30s rank. It is so new for all of us that people like to throw out different statements but within the realm of history, he isnt as bad as many say

    I think he did some good things but he will never get credit because of the level of screw ups he had
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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    I would have liked to see how Bush did if 9/11 never happened..... hell I know we all wish 9/11 never happened.


    (and no I'm not saying Bush sucked just b/c of 9/11)

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerProphet View Post
    so wait, when W passed medicare part d with shaddy back room deals and a razor margin...that was legit. now when the current goon in chief does the same thing it is break out the don't tread on me flags.

    give me a phuckin' break. either you think the gov't is to large and intrusive or you don't.
    Speaking of Gadsden flags.

    I have to admit that my political views have evolved over the last decade. I am no longer a Republican and for damn sure am not a Democrat. My goal is to be consistently anti-government now.

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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Harry, are you one of these guys?



    Sorry, I ain't calling anybody out or commenting on the issue. I just thought the picture was funny and I wanted to put on here somewhere.
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    Re: ok Republicans, myself included

    Quote Originally Posted by sooner59 View Post
    Harry, are you one of these guys?



    Sorry, I ain't calling anybody out or commenting on the issue. I just thought the picture was funny and I wanted to put on here somewhere.

    Somewhere in between, although I do own a pair of Doc Martens black steel toe boots.

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