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    Question to small business owners or people

    with friends and family members who have small businesses.

    So if this health care bill does pass, will you, or those you know who do own small businesses drop the coverage they carry on their employees and leave them to the mercy of the new socialistic universal type health care?

    We pay 100% of our employees coverage right now but I'm sure with the big raise in our taxes that this bill will cause I don't see us being able to afford to pay for the full coverage we carry on our employees Blue Cross and Blue Shield plan any longer.

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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    My wife's small business doesn't provide any coverage. basically, all of the employees have spouses who cover them through family plans through the spouses' employer - or occasionally a young single employee will simply have no coverage.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    There will be no more small business. The Obama/Pelosi socialist regieme will not allow it.

    Big Brother will take care of us all.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    Quote Originally Posted by SanJoaquinSooner View Post
    My wife's small business doesn't provide any coverage. basically, all of the employees have spouses who cover them through family plans through the spouses' employer - or occasionally a young single employee will simply have no coverage.
    Whore houses dont dont provide health care?
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    Quote Originally Posted by MamaMia View Post
    with friends and family members who have small businesses.

    So if this health care bill does pass, will you, or those you know who do own small businesses drop the coverage they carry on their employees and leave them to the mercy of the new socialistic universal type health care?

    We pay 100% of our employees coverage right now but I'm sure with the big raise in our taxes that this bill will cause I don't see us being able to afford to pay for the full coverage we carry on our employees Blue Cross and Blue Shield plan any longer.
    From what I gather, there's a penalty on businesses who hire low income workers, to offset the increased gov't subsidy they will get.

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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    I'll do whatever my accountant tells me to, but my company is in a very unique position; we hire really good developers and pay the **** out of them, so the cost of healthcare as a percentage of total payroll costs isn't that significant. We've been fortunate so far in that the folks we've hired have wives working for schools or hospitals so their insurance is better than what we can provide.

    I'd like to have an in-depth knowledge of how the bill will affect us, but it's not a factor I can control and my hands are full (and then some) understanding and managing the factors within my scope of power.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    How can they answer this question when no one knows exactly whats in this bill? Even those voting on it today don't know I would wager.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    Quote Originally Posted by 1890MilesToNorman View Post
    How can they answer this question when no one knows exactly whats in this bill? Even those voting on it today don't know I would wager.
    Hell, even I didn't know you would wager.

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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    , that was worded wrong weren't it.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    Quote Originally Posted by 1890MilesToNorman View Post
    How can they answer this question when no one knows exactly whats in this bill? Even those voting on it today don't know I would wager.
    Well, we know there is a fine for not providing insurance, but that fine is less than providing a policy. I heard the number $700 floated out there.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    The passage of this bill will continue to suck the life out of the American entrepreneurial spirit. Which is what our economy...our way of life is based upon.

    And it is evident that's what this lawless regime is out to accomplish.

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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    What does the bill say about independent contractors?
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

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    What does the bill say about independent contractors?
    They will all be reported to the Department of Homeland Security.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    If I were a Democrat voting "NO" I'd be scared to death. The IRS would bury me. Sort of like what the KGB used to do to dissidents.

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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    As a small business owner myself, I have no idea what I will do. I am lucky that all of my employees save myself are covered under the Insure Oklahoma plan. That way I can have full coverage for all of them yet they only pay 15% and I only pay 15%. It's not perfect but it is really good for me.

    My biggest concern is my clients. Since I have a medical billing company that caters to small 1-2 provider practices, this plan will impact them significantly and in turn my business. I am proud to say that all of my clients are physicians are in it for the medicine and not the money. This leaves them with over 75% of their patients being on Medicare or Medicaid. Most of them have said they could very likely close up shop if this plan is forced down their throats.

    I just wish these Congressmen could remember that everyone already has access to healthcare. If they can't afford something, then they need to work harder for coverage not wait for it to be handed to them. We are guaranteed the PURSUIT of happiness not happiness it self. I personally like living in a meritocracy.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    What about those that refuse medical treatment for religious reasons? Heh.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    Quote Originally Posted by Flagstaffsooner View Post
    Whore houses dont dont provide health care?
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    Somehow that flag sets the mood for the entire health care discussion.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    Quote Originally Posted by VeeJay View Post
    The passage of this bill will continue to suck the life out of the American entrepreneurial spirit. Which is what our economy...our way of life is based upon.

    And it is evident that's what this lawless regime is out to accomplish.
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    Re: Question to small business owners or people

    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Lizard View Post
    What does the bill say about independent contractors?
    They need to pay- A LOT!
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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