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    Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Thoughts?

    It is interesting to find out that Tebow's mother's doctor advised her to abort him due to her age, etc. Of course there are 100 joke here as well from a Gator Hater perspective.

    At the same time I find myself wondering what potential scientist, teacher, athlete, or leader has been aborted because the pregnancy was incovenient to the mother or family?

    I'm not a woman, so I don't have to make that decision; however, I find it strange that NOW is actively attempting to keep the commercial off the air? Why is that? If one side has the right to speak and be heard, then what issue does NOW have with the other side simply stating a different viewpoint?

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    I'm pretty sure his mother's name was Mary, and he was born in a manger...

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    To me the disappointing part is that CBS has shied away from ads like this in the past (controversial) and I think it takes away from the game a bit. Also heard they're considering running an ad for a gay online dating site. Howzit, you hear that?

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    i'd like to talk to someone in NOW about how they feel about abortion in China

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    NOW should just focus on fat, ugly dykes and not worry about abortion issues. None of them NOW broads get laid anyhow. By a man I mean. WTF do they care about abortion?

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Every potential Leonardo DaVinci that's aborted is also a potential Adolf
    Hitler. IMHO, that side of any abortion argument is pretty much irrelevant.
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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    So what you're saying is that for every doleo there's a PG?

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Hey! That's---wait, actually that's about right.
    "I'm a mother****ing party all by myself."

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Parting shot - but it still ain't fair to kill either one of them before they get a chance to be all doleo or PG. Not in my book anyhow.

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    I am against airing the ad during the Super Bowl. And, I do like the idea of promoting the fact that women in their 40s can bear children, even if there are higher risks. I don't care about the abortion issue and I think that it is a woman's body and she and the doctor can make that decision. At least Tebow isn't talking about cutting off little brown pecker skins of infant boys in the Philippines. That is just so wrong.
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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by proud gonzo View Post
    Every potential Leonardo DaVinci that's aborted is also a potential Adolf
    Hitler. IMHO, that side of any abortion argument is pretty much irrelevant.
    So, you're going to use the scale arguement? Interesting. What if life isn't a big scale where you weigh stuff out, but it's more like just the collective weight of everything in just one big steaming pile.

    The question then becomes, who is going to do the shoveling? You can always eliminate someone who is a sh** piler, but you can never replace a gold medal shoveler.
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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Why is anyone from NOW even watching the superbowl? Air the ad.
    I gots ta get me a signature.

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    He's more than welcome to share his views, and if CBS is willing to put them on the air in exchange for money, more power to them on that.

    As PG pointed out, the argument to potential genius is fairly weak. I'm sure that you can find any number of potential Churchills and Adolfs on the sock Doleo keeps hidden in the back of his dresser. If he wants to present it and can afford a forum to do so, no big deal. He's not likely to convince me at any rate.
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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    There is a difference between arguing for abortion and arguing for the right to have an abortion. NOW bitching about this ad is arguing for abortion and I think in reality, most decent people don't think abortion is a great thing.

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Sooner View Post

    As PG pointed out, the argument to potential genius is fairly weak. I'm sure that you can find any number of potential Churchills and Adolfs on the sock Doleo keeps hidden in the back of his dresser. If he wants to present it and can afford a forum to do so, no big deal. He's not likely to convince me at any rate.
    That argument is lame.
    We are gonna kill 4.2 million(random number) people just in case one is a nutjob doesn't really make sense and that is pretty much what that argument says.

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaRed View Post
    So, you're going to use the scale arguement? Interesting. What if life isn't a big scale where you weigh stuff out, but it's more like just the collective weight of everything in just one big steaming pile.

    The question then becomes, who is going to do the shoveling? You can always eliminate someone who is a sh** piler, but you can never replace a gold medal shoveler.
    No, I'm not saying there's an evil person for every awesome person. I'm saying that each life has the potential to achieve great good OR great evil and that potential isn't a good reason to argue for or against abortion. A life's worth isn't determined by how much good it achieves but by its humanity. I don't think it's fair to say abortion is wrong because you might be killing a future Mother Teresa--it's just as wrong to kill Bob the unemployed bum. That's why I say the "potential genius" argument is irrelevant.
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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    I'd be just as pissed off if Rosie O'Donnell ran a pro-choice commercial during the Superbowl.

    It would be like Tuba and Me getting into a political pissing match in the middle of a game thread on the football board during an OU game.

    A-NOY-ING.

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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaRed View Post
    Thoughts?

    It is interesting to find out that Tebow's mother's doctor advised her to abort him due to her age, etc. Of course there are 100 joke here as well from a Gator Hater perspective.

    At the same time I find myself wondering what potential scientist, teacher, athlete, or leader has been aborted because the pregnancy was incovenient to the mother or family?

    I'm not a woman, so I don't have to make that decision; however, I find it strange that NOW is actively attempting to keep the commercial off the air? Why is that? If one side has the right to speak and be heard, then what issue does NOW have with the other side simply stating a different viewpoint?

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    To counter this argument against abortion, someone should run a commercial featuring the fact that a doctor ALSO strongly advised my mother to abort me considering her age.

    It would probably change a few pro-lifer's minds on here to join the other side.
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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by achiro View Post
    That argument is lame.
    We are gonna kill 4.2 million(random number) people just in case one is a nutjob doesn't really make sense and that is pretty much what that argument says.
    That's not what they were saying. They were saying that the abortions are gonna happen regardless...so to argue that they SHOULDN'T happen, based on the potential for one of the children to grow up to be DiVinci is about as illogical and ludicrous as to argue that they all should be killed because one might grow up to be Hitler.

    Either argument is silly and baseless.

    Other arguments are more sound. On both sides.
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    Re: Tebow Ad During Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by achiro View Post
    There is a difference between arguing for abortion and arguing for the right to have an abortion. NOW bitching about this ad is arguing for abortion and I think in reality, most decent people don't think abortion is a great thing.
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