The downward slide began when kids stopped saying "sir" and "ma'am"

[Okla-homey]

just saying.

S.C. student dead, officer hurt after fight at school


(CNN) -- An altercation between a South Carolina high school student and a school resource officer ended tragically Friday with the student dead of a gunshot wound and the officer hospitalized after being stabbed.

Police officers in body armor vests are on the scene after violence at a school near Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

The incident took place about 8:25 a.m., and both the officer and the 16-year-old student were transported to Conway Medical Center, where the student died, said Sgt. Robert Kegler of the Horry County Police Department.

The resource officer, who was a Horry County police officer assigned to the school, remains hospitalized, he said.

Kegler had no other information.

"Anytime anything happens with a police officer like this, we ask an outside agency to come in to investigate," he said. "In this case, the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division is taking the lead."

Teal Britton, a spokeswoman for Horry County Schools, said the student had asked to see the officer at Carolina Forest High School in Myrtle Beach.

"They went into his office, and the door was shut, and then the struggle began," she said. School officials have "no clue in terms of what might have brought that about."

Britton also had no further information and said the Law Enforcement Division had asked that the high school refrain from discussing details.

Neither Britton nor Kegler named the officer or the student.

The state agency has not responded to requests for comment.

Myrtle Beach is a popular vacation destination in northeast South Carolina, on the Atlantic coast.

[GottaHavePride]

I say "sir", but some ladies get uppity if you call them ma'am now.

Some chicks get uppity if you call them a "lady".

[Scott D]

and old people like homey get cranky and uppity just because they woke up.

[okiewaker]

The downward slide began when parents quit parenting. IMO

[Soonrboy]

amen

[Curly Bill]

Bring back corporal punishment!

[Petro-Sooner]

Bring back corporal punishment!

Bingo!

[SoonerNate]

End women's suffrage!

[Okla-homey]

and old people like homey get cranky and uppity just because they woke up.

How can Homey be "old?" He's the same age as the guy the media keeps referring to as "this young President."

[Okla-homey]

The downward slide continued with the explosion of unwed teenage moms who are kids themselves and have no idea how to properly rear a child, and with no father whatsoever in the parenting picture. IMO

fixed it.

[King Crimson]

not very robust social theory in this one, guys.

[Okla-homey]

I got your "social theory" right here bud.

Why Did 1 In 7 Girls Get Pregnant At Robeson High?

CBS 2's Kristyn Hartman reports.

All those young ladies are moms or moms-to-be at Paul Robeson High School. It's not a school for young mothers, it's a neighborhood school. And all of the pregnancies have happened, despite prevention talk.

If you want to know why, the people closest to the situation say there's no simple explanation.

Chicago Public Schools says it does not track the overall number of teen moms in the district. But Robeson Principal Gerald Morrow knows the count at his school in Englewood: 115 young ladies who are either expecting or already have had children.

To put it in perspective, their school pictures would fill roughly six pages of their high school year book.

Why is it happening at Robeson?

"It can be a lot of things that are happening in the home or not happening in the home, if you will," Morrow said. Absentee fathers are another factor, he said.

LaDonna Denson and two other Robeson students say parents not talking to teens and, in some cases, the pursuit of public assistance also factor into the pregnancies. None of them thought they'd be moms at such a young age.

They said they have support at home. But not all girls do, they said. In fact, some girls get thrown out of the home.

Not on Morrow's turf. "We're not looking at them like 'Ooh you made a mistake,'" he said. "We're looking at how we can get them to the next phase, how can we still get them thinking about graduation?"

So there's help in a teen parent program. And coming soon, right across from Robeson, developers are turning a one-time crack house into a day care for student use. "We have to provide some type of environment for them and some form of support for them," Van Vincent, CEO of VLV Development, said.

It's all made an impression.

"Just cause you have a baby, that doesn't mean your life is over," one student said.

One thing they might not know about their principal: His mom had him when she was 15. That's why accepting the problem -- and working through it -- is so important to him.

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Robeson...2.1251642.html

[StoopTroup]

Whatever Dude!

[Tulsa_Fireman]

"Just cause you have a baby, that doesn't mean your life is over," one student said.

No, but in this case, it sure as hell doesn't shower you in roses and a bright sunny future.

[homerSimpsonsBrain]

Dont think this is anything new...

"Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for their elders, and love chatter in
places of exercise. They no longer rise when elders enter the room.
They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up their
food, and tyrannize their teachers." (Socrates, 469-399 B.C.).

He forgot to mention "and they stab the local cops"

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

End women's suffrage!

Now, you've done it!

[texas bandman]

Ar my school, they still say sir and m'am but some of them use the Eddie Haskell tone...makes me want to rip their ****in'heads off.

[Okla-homey]

No, but in this case, it sure as hell doesn't shower you in roses and a bright sunny future.

Amen brother. It is an incontrovertible fact that girls born to unwed teen moms are most likely to repeat the tragedy when they themselves reach puberty, drop out of school, and remain poor and ignorant for life. The boys born born to those moms? Our jails and prisons are filled to bursting with them.

In some communities in the US, the illegitimate birth rate is above 70%. That is a recipe for social chaos of disasterous proportions for the above reasons.

And folks can quote ancient writers lamenting the youth of their day all they want, but this "kids having kids out of wedlock" problem is relatively new in America (statistically significant only since the late 1960's) and, IMHO, the most important challenge American society faces. It's bigger and more critical than anything else. Including climate change, health care, etc., etc. Made more dangerous because no one on the political stage appears willing to champion trying to turn it around because apparently, its not PC to do so.

Maybe Michael Moore will make one of his mockumentary's someday entitled: "Babies Having Babies: Insuring the Next Generation of Convicts."

[GottaHavePride]

Maybe Michael Moore will make one of his mockumentary's someday entitled: "Babies Having Babies: Insuring the Next Generation of Convicts."

Side tangent, go!

Michael Moore really isn't any different from anyone else that makes a documentary. EVERY documentary is pushing some sort of agenda, even if it's only on the scale of "hey, more people should know about this". The difference with Michael Moore is that he doesn't hide that he's pushing his opinion, and isn't afraid to put himself in his own documentary expressing that opinion.

Is he a kook? In most cases, yes. But give him some credit - he's not hiding his agenda by using pictures of fuzzy animals and voiceovers by Morgan Freeman.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Speaking of documentaries, this one is a must see. Five stars on the Tulsa_Fireman documentary ratings scale.

I got yer mongoose right here, bud!