Why didn't we ever throw the ball? I was there. We had single coverage all night up top!! Bob tried to stall out the game and depend on his defense but once again the defense loses it's effectiveness when they are CONSTANTLY on the field.
What happened to big game Bob? He has become more conservative than Ann Coulter!
BTW, the U fans were the least classy fans I ever seen us play. I am tempted to move out of this cesspol now. I'm devastated.
That is a valid argument but my point is that our D isnt going to make every single stop, no D will. That posession is magnified cus of when it took place but the fact is our D gave up 21 the entire game to Miami(14 were their fault) and 14 to BYU, there is no reason we couldnt score 22 and 15
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I don't think it's really fair to talk about what they did or didn't do in the NFL. Heupel and White didn't go to the NFL.
Woolfolk ended up being a hell of a shut down CB, and iirc he was first moved to that spot to lock up Roy Williams of Texas. RW never scored a TD on OU.
How can you not say Calmus, Torrance, and TRRW weren't game changers? INTs at crucial times, big time plays in big games. Derek Strait's another.
I don't disagree that Mike Stoops made a difference, though. I just don't see the same level of talent across the board on defense. Or maybe it's just attitude. Travis Lewis could end up being one of the great OU LBs once all is said and done, but he's not there yet, IMO.
The fact is when we absolutely need a stop we can't get it. Why? Because we have a bend but don't break defense. Look at the Tulsa game. How many times were they in our territory? We don't get many 3 and outs. We bend bend bend and hope the quarterback makes a mistake or we sack the quarterback. Otherwise they dink and dunk us until we blow an assignment.
and THIS is why i have been questioning the killer instinct in this coaching staffs minds.....
i remember back in the ealry 2000s where we wouldn't leave points on the table at any point. we were going for it and the opponents knew it and couldn't do a f'ing thing about it. the two that stick out most in my mind right now are...missou fake FG and the bama fake punt....any more>?
bottom line, with a little more than 4 minutes to go in the game, 4th and 12, go for it. if you trust the defense, put them in position to step up, make a few stops and maybe a sack or two that would produce a 4th and 15+ situation and give us the ball back with about 2 minutes to go with less than 50 yards to go. best case scenario, we get 13yards to the miami 9 with 4 minutes to go. worst case, they get the ball at the 22 and you make miami play with the lead...(ie play not to lose) they fumble, throw a pick. get stuffed 3 times in a row. we get the ball running down hill.
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The defense made a stop if I'm not mistaken. The offense had 1 first down after that score. We needed the offense to step up more if anything because we lost our leader in the middle of the game. I don't think even the 2000 D steps up if Rocky gets hurt and is out for the game in the middle of the A&M game.
I failed to include a very importat qualifier on my post. What I meant was that, other than Harris, none of those guys were game changers at the NFL level. All were superb at the college level and were definitely game changers. I hope that clears up some confusion and removes me from your "dumbass" lists! lol
lol No, I understand what you're saying. Really, though, I think some of it was b/c those guys were scared to mess up. They knew Mike Stoops would be waiting for them after the game if they did. lol
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I think we all agree that this loss was a team effort. I especially loved KW's playcalling when we got down by 2 scores. Nothing scares a fast defense more than a draw on 3rd and 18 in your own territory. <please note the sarcasm> So there's plenty to criticize about the offense.
But the fact is that we have a defense that is capable of much more than what we're getting out of it. It has been that way for YEARS. The problem isn't that we don't have the right players to make the plays, it's that they're out of position frequently. This is never more evident than when the game is close, and we just can't come up with a stop. The players are fast enough and strong enough to limit the damage to 10- to 15-yard plays most of the time, instead of 60-yard touchdowns. But if the down and distance is 3rd and 9, and you give up 12, it's still bad defense.
We run a zone that lets other teams complete passes in front of us, and then we run to the ball to make the stop. This works great against Idaho State. But against teams with athletes that can run routes in the middle, we struggle heavily. The additional problem is that the difference between a team like OU/Texas/Florida and a team like Miami/BYU/KU or even marginal teams, is not in the skill players. Almost all FBS teams recruit decent skill players. The elite teams have better players in the trenches and on defense.
That is why we struggle against mediocre teams, and crumble against good teams...because we allow their skill players to get open over the middle, even if we're putting pressure on their QB. With a Venables scheme, half the time it doesn't even matter if we blitz or get pressure with the front four...all a QB has to do is find an open receiver 5-10 yards downfield, and it's an automatic first down. Miss a tackle or two, and it's a 40-yard play. Complicating matters, we RARELY run stunts or zone blitzes. We'll throw a few linebacker and corner blitzes in, but those are easily stopped schematically. This gives the QB extra time, and those completions over the middle now get longer, into the 15- to 25-yard range.
This is a consistent problem with the defense. The offensive issues are a little more complicated, but it also comes down to playcalling. I also think we have enough talent to run a pro-style offense, not a gimmick spread out of the shotgun. This offense is predictable and easy for good teams to stop. We are at our best when we are switching up between lining up under center and the occasional shotgun. But too often we sit back in shotgun formation and telegraph our plays. Even worse, when you sit back in a shotgun, you put more pressure on the offensive line. The offensive line turns into a defense, essentially, in protecting the QB, and takes away aggressiveness. Do it too often, and we will pile up penalties as we flail at defenders passing by.
Once in a while, KW will get on a roll and mix it up well. But in big games he will frequently get stymied if he's taken out of rhythm, and it takes a long time for him to adjust and get back into rhythm.
BV doesn't have the mental acumen to develop a gameplan beyond the scheme he already knows -- hell, it probably took him years just to learn that. To expect he might be capable of making in game adjustments to take away something the offense is having success with is beyond anything he's remotely capable of.
Basically he's a musclehead.
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