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    Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    protecting the homeland...

    Special teams of Texas Rangers will be deployed to the Texas-Mexico border to deal with increasing violence because the federal government has failed to address growing problems there, Gov. Rick Perry said Thursday.
    The forces, dubbed "Ranger recon" teams, are the latest effort "to fill the gap that's been left by the federal government's ongoing failure to adequately secure our international border with Mexico," he said.

    The governor early this year asked Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano for 1,000 National Guard troops and renewed his call last month in a letter to President Barack Obama. The request is bogged down over who will pay for the troops and how they will be deployed.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32793136..._news-security

    How come Obama seems to be only interested in saving money when it involves the national security???

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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    To be fair Tuba, the National Guard is a totally different animal than regular active duty. Not saying that Obama's lack of action is good in any way, but I can see how it'd be a concern whether Texas is footing the bill on the Texas National Guard being used in such a manner, or if it's falling to the Fed.

    Personally I think it'd be better to just get a rival mafia down there to fight that little battle.
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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott D View Post
    but I can see how it'd be a concern whether Texas is footing the bill on the Texas National Guard being used in such a manner, or if it's falling to the Fed.
    I would normally agree, but Obama hasn't batted an eye handing out cash to pay for state infrustructure projects, unemployment benefits, and budget shortfalls from the Porkulus bill.

    Nor has he batted an eye in handing out trillions to private banks, taking over GM, kickbacks to his union friends and ACORN thugs.

    Yet somehow figuring out the funding to protect our national border is a problem.

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    Well the National Guard thing is still kind of sticky...to me it doesn't matter who pays, but that kind of thing does have to be cut and dried I think. Perhaps the way Perry should have gone about it was declaring a state of emergency.

    Of course if you give this thread time, I'm sure SicEm will draw himself away from his further emasculating new toy to express why the Fed. shouldn't pay for it and why it's a sovereignty issue for a state.
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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    It is one of the few things the federal gov IS supposed to be responsible for...ie securing of our borders. If the border of OK/Tx needed securing that would be a states issue.

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    First time in 8 years Perry has made sense about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delhalew View Post
    It is one of the few things the federal gov IS supposed to be responsible for...ie securing of our borders. If the border of OK/Tx needed securing that would be a states issue.
    I'm not arguing who is responsible for securing the border, I'm arguing who is responsible for funding the particular enforcement body in question. We're discussing the Nat. Guard not the Army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerinabilene View Post
    First time in 8 years Perry has made sense about anything.
    He needs to kick Kay B. Hutchinson's as* in the primary next year. It's not often I wish I was a Texan...
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    I can't wait until you turn on him for being a RINO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerinabilene View Post
    First time in 8 years Perry has made sense about anything.
    He must be running for something.
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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    Quote Originally Posted by delhalew View Post
    It is one of the few things the federal gov IS supposed to be responsible for...ie securing of our borders. If the border of OK/Tx needed securing that would be a states issue.
    The Constitution says it would be a federal issue, actually.

    "Securing" the border between two states would be a clear Article IV and 14th Amendment violation. Which would be a federal issue.
    "The choices we discern as having been made in the Constitutional Convention impose burdens on governmental proceses that often seem clumsy, inefficient, even unworkable, but those hard choices were consciously made by men who had lived under a form of government that permitted arbitrary governmental acts to go unchecked." INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983) (Burger, C.J.)

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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    Where is Brad Henry?

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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    Quote Originally Posted by SanJoaquinSooner View Post
    He must be running for something.
    he knows if he can get past hutchinson he has it won. kinky friedman is not any competition. there just isnt another texan thats worth voting for at the moment, since neagabeuar (sp) apparently is happy being a representative. if he ran for governor, he would win in a landslide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Right View Post
    Where is Brad Henry?
    he decided the non existent border with Mexico wasn't worth defending.
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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Sooner View Post
    The Constitution says it would be a federal issue, actually.

    "Securing" the border between two states would be a clear Article IV and 14th Amendment violation. Which would be a federal issue.
    You're right. I didn't give much thought since it seemed like a dumb-assed analogy anyway. I guess apart from the civil war it would be unprecedented.

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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott D View Post
    ...Personally I think it'd be better to just get a rival mafia down there to fight that little battle.
    After which you kill the winner... problem solved!
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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    Quote Originally Posted by delhalew View Post
    You're right. I didn't give much thought since it seemed like a dumb-assed analogy anyway. I guess apart from the civil war it would be unprecedented.
    Back in the early 1800s Michigan and Ohio declared war on each other over Toledo. Apparently Ohio lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delhalew View Post
    It is one of the few things the federal gov IS supposed to be responsible for...ie securing of our borders. If the border of OK/Tx needed securing that would be a states issue.
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    Re: Gov. Perry doing the job the Obama won't....

    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaTuba View Post
    protecting the homeland...

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32793136..._news-security

    How come Obama seems to be only interested in saving money when it involves the national security???
    I guess what I don't understand Tuba is Pubs keep bashing him about his unbridled spending and now your posting about why he won't spend money.

    I think PBHO should indeed spend the money...but Bush didn't spend the money initially at the first sign of trouble when Katrina hit New Orleans either. I think it's really easy for everyone to say the President (whether it's PGWB or PBHO) should be doing something like call the National Guard in or flood an area with relief...it's alway more complicated when you find out that the State has to ask for it to happen 1st. So many things about Katrina and Government intervention were revealed that it was amazing to see what Americans expected...didn't happen because there had never been anything organized to get Government Agencies rolling in such scenarios.

    Not saying anything is right or wrong....but it seems that it's still a problem. Here even a Governor is expecting assistance for a worthy cause and it's bogged down in bureaucracy. It just doesn't seem like the Governor's problem is an Obama problem as much as it's an Obama Governmental issue since he's now President. Goes back to my thoughts that no matter who you put in office anymore...there's only so much a President is going to be able to accomplish.

    That kind of stuff worries me more than any Dem vs Pub issue.

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