After reading this story, there is no way anyone can be deceived that the ACLU wants to criminalize the PERSONAL practice of Christianity.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...home_headlines
Neg if you must
After reading this story, there is no way anyone can be deceived that the ACLU wants to criminalize the PERSONAL practice of Christianity.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...home_headlines
Neg if you must
OBAMA= One Big A** Mistake America!
I like how I can tell the difference between institutional and personal beliefs and you can't, I can also tell the difference between a court of law and the ACLU, do you really want another depantsing as bad as the last time you posted your dreck?
Boomer Sooner
Yep, sounds real PERSONAL to me."The defendants all admitted wrongdoing," said Daniel Mach, director of litigation for its freedom of religion program. "For example, the Pace High School teachers handbook asks teachers to 'embrace every opportunity to inculcate, by precept and example, the practice of every Christian virtue.' "
Now this is pretty stupid. If she wants to talk about how her personal values guided her through school or something, who cares?Mr. Staver said the district also agreed to forbid senior class President Mary Allen from speaking at the school's May 30 graduation ceremony on the chance that the young woman, a known Christian, might say something religious.
I'm not happy until you're not happy.
Holy ****. Has anyone looked up the meaning of the word "inculcate"?
1. to implant by repeated statement or admonition; teach persistently and earnestly (usually fol. by upon or in): to inculcate virtue in the young.
2. to cause or influence (someone) to accept an idea or feeling (usually fol. by with): Socrates inculcated his pupils with the love of truth.
La ola es mía.
They shouldn't be arrested, unless the charges are for stupidity.
"a known Christian"
glad to see some progress being made here
Here's what I find ironic.
The Lord's Prayer is Matthew 6:9-13.In response, many members of the 300-plus-member student body taped crosses to their mortarboards and stood for an impromptu recitation of the Lord's Prayer during the ceremony.
Matthew 6:5-6 (right before the Lord's Prayer) is
5And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Back in 1995 the Supreme Court ruled that students could initiate school prayer outside of class time. This means that Before school during lunch and after school (clubs). Staff were not to initiate prayers and many of the students and teacher at my high school would hold hands out front and pray silently around the flag pole. The fact that the student body president wasn't allowed to speak is a bunch of crap!
The seperation according to the SCOTUS is student initiated and not staff initiated. Unfourtuanately, the sep of church and state has been basterdized too much. I think most scholars would agree that it was intended to keep religious freedom as in no national church or laws governing religion not that students and teachers could not pray. Congress prays everyday when it is in session. The cogressional members have a member of their church or clergy come to D.C. and pray to open each day. It has been like that for 200+ years!!!!!!
How many of us on here were in high school and always had a local minister pray before football games?
Heck, I remember when I attended grade school at Morrison we had a lady come to the school and actually teach some bible lessons to the entire grade school.
Nobody complained about it that I remember . . . nobody felt like their rights were violated that I know of . . .
Yep . . . that's definitely a bad thing."For example, the Pace High School teachers handbook asks teachers to 'embrace every opportunity to inculcate, by precept and example, the practice of every Christian virtue.'
Now is it a bad thing?For example, the Pace High School teachers handbook asks teachers to 'embrace every opportunity to inculcate, by precept and example, the practice of every Islamic virtue
Why is that always everyone's typical comeback against anything Christian?Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey
Are kids forced to participate?
Religion has NO place in a publicly funded school.
Why?
Because I don't believe in indoctrinating our youth?
Because enabling the promotion of one mythology over another is inherently bigoted?
Because the longer we spend promoting tribal/dichotomous dogma to flourish the longer we avoid transcending it?
would you want your kids hearing the tenets of Islam at school from teachers everyday?
you might think that hearing about Christianity at school is a good idea for your kid, but i wouldn't.
but yeah, not letting a student speak because they might say something religious is going a touch too far
So allowing a public prayer is the equivalent of brainwashing?
The world is inherently bigoted . . .
Because enabling the promotion of one mythology over another is inherently bigoted?
Because the longer we spend promoting tribal/dichotomous dogma to flourish the longer we avoid transcending it?
You'll never transcend Christianity . . . you're (we're) too small to comprehend it.
Islam is a part of our world history . . . if taught in conjunction with the tenets of other religions I would honestly have no problem with my kids learning about the religions of the world.
Apparently a lot of you don't think hearing about Christianity anywhere is a good idea. I would never consider leaving my children learning about Christianity to a school or even a church.you might think that hearing about Christianity at school is a good idea for your kid, but i wouldn't.
Allowing a non-school directed prayer or prayer group to exist beyond the hours in which school is in session is fine. School directed prayer is brainwashing.
So we should just keep perpetuating that?
I'm too small to comprehend the universe. I'm not too small to comprehend the mythology of a culture.
Agreed.
Apparently a lot of you don't think hearing about rational, free thought anywhere is good idea...
If people want to worship invisible sky gods that don't want us touching ourselves...than that's their beezwax.
Just keep it out of my tax funded public schools.
Member of the extremely narcissistic
Olephart pooosey.
School directed = ?
Prayer lead by a teacher during school hours?
I think that will happen no matter what. Focusing on the "evils" of prayer in school IMO in no way perpetuates bigotry.So we should just keep perpetuating that?
Then why not allow religious aspects of a culture to be taught alongside the rest of the culture's history?I'm too small to comprehend the universe. I'm not too small to comprehend the mythology of a culture.
Since I'm for prayer means I'm irrational and incapable of free thought? I'm allowing people to think freely . . . even if that includes prayer of any kind.Apparently a lot of you don't think hearing about rational, free thought anywhere is good idea...
Would you be offended by my family praying before a meal in a public restaurant?
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