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    This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    "Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.

    "Without opportunities on the part of the poor to obtain expert legal advice, it is idle to talk of equality before the law"-- Justice Chas. Evans Hughes

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    People don't know what it is to be a champion.

    Oklahoma INVENTED it.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    the more i hear the more i don't like it. and i think i'm pretty impartial...

    Jerk, that's awful


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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Free Obama Dolls...


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    Behold the pale horse. The man who sat on him was death, and Hell followed with him.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Meh, Clinton had Hillarycare and Bush sat at over 85% at one point, I think it's a bit premature to call his presidency a lost cause.
    Boomer Sooner

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    That's what you get for thinking.

    LOST CAUSE.

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    People don't know what it is to be a champion.

    Oklahoma INVENTED it.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Quote Originally Posted by soonerscuba View Post
    Meh, Clinton had Hillarycare and Bush sat at over 85% at one point, I think it's a bit premature to call his presidency a lost cause.

    ...not if we want to be at the front of the line.
    Behold the pale horse. The man who sat on him was death, and Hell followed with him.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Sing it with me.

    LOST CAUSE.
    People don't know what it is to be a champion.

    Oklahoma INVENTED it.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    lost cause
    Behold the pale horse. The man who sat on him was death, and Hell followed with him.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Quote Originally Posted by Curly Bill View Post
    ...not if we want to be at the front of the line.
    Well, I was claiming Cheney controlled the weather before it was cool.
    Boomer Sooner

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Well, I don't know what Obama's strategy is, but if I wanted to overhaul something as massive as health care I'd start by having someone shove forward a plan far more ridiculous than what I actually intended to pass. Then after everyone's panties are in a wad you say "OK, let's compromise" and hit them with the plan you actually want to pass.

    Just saying...
    ... that's not food.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Cheney/Bush were too stupid to control anything.
    Behold the pale horse. The man who sat on him was death, and Hell followed with him.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    This talk of outrageous medical bills ruining lives is pretty much bull **** in my opinion. I know a few relatives who, without insurance, incurred extremely high medical bills. Do you know what they did? They got off their asses, went to work, and slowly payed the debt off until they were free of it.

    Many of these same folks who bitch about outrageous health care costs will not even hesitate to go into debt for the new car, the fancy computer, or the nice house that is too expensive, but if it's something medical, apparently they are entitled to rob the provider. Bull****, fiddlesticks, and poppycock.

    Now although there are some who are less fortunate, there are too many lazy asses who need to relearn, or learn for the first time, the principles of self-reliance and personal accountability. Again, this is not meant to disparage those who have lost jobs do to the economy. However, it is meant to disparage those who are too lazy to support themselves or their families.

    No excuses! Laces out! Pull up them damn boot straps and go to work! (I did a job I detested for 6 years to support my family while I went to school, so yes, I do have a little room to talk.)

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    http://www.pjtv.com/video/Louder_Wit...QB-sP4dni8LBks

    Do we really want socialized health care?

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    1. predictions of Obama's demise from Homey are too numerous to count over the last 16 months. exactly none of them have been correct.

    2. Clinton's health care thing failed early in his first term, little too early for the all-against-Brack crew to get their hopes all the way up. immediate gratification in this sense is not likely to be how this unfolds...unless BO is caught in a hotel room with a dead hooker and a live boy, as the expression goes.
    “someone's controlling the vibes!"--apache dropout

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    yeah, but the Clintons were balancing the budget, reforming welfare and working with a Republican congress. You left out the part where the Clintons quadrupled the national debt.
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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Quote Originally Posted by XingTheRubicon View Post
    yeah, but the Clintons were balancing the budget, reforming welfare and working with a Republican congress. You left out the part where the Clintons quadrupled the national debt.
    my only point is Clinton overcame a "Waterloo" of health care to be a two term prez. i make no evaluation of his career, merely that using the term "Waterloo" seems a bit premature since it would imply the end of a POTUS. my example shows that it may not be.
    “someone's controlling the vibes!"--apache dropout

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Quote Originally Posted by King Crimson View Post
    my only point is Clinton overcame a "Waterloo" of health care to be a two term prez. i make no evaluation of his career, merely that using the term "Waterloo" seems a bit premature since it would imply the end of a POTUS. my example shows that it may not be.
    Looking back, Clinton was able to compromise. Making him better than either of the last 2 presidents.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    Well, if the healthcare bill is half as successful as Porkulus is, then the GOP should have no problem in 2010 and 2012.

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    Re: This health care dealio may be his Waterloo

    It seems like everybody is trying to hard to declare something over before it has really started, and with the exception of the 2008 OU/NU game, things are rarely over that quickly.
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