can we stop with the carmaker bailouts -- because the UAW health care package will be redundant?
Enquiring minds want to know.
I hear tell they're pondering taxing employer-provided heath care benefits as income to pay for it all. Think about it folks. That would mean your W-2 would include a line for what your employer pays for your health insurance and that sum would be assessed against you as part of your taxable income.
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Just imagine going to Mexico for better health care!
An unintended consequence: Reducing unnecessary redundancy. Sweet.Originally Posted by Okla-homey
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and good with ketchup.
Pffffft, I'd settle for knowing when the American people are going to get bailed out.
pffffft, I'd settle for ONE policy maker to know what it's actually like to work and live in the real world.
I taste terrific.
You mean like her . . . I mean him . . . or it?
I'm pretty sure former laywers don't fall into the "working man" category.
no offense Homey.
I taste terrific.
I'm a little torn on this. A big part of me says that it is ok for it to be taxed, after all it is "income" of sorts. As an employer, I would like to know if it changes my bottom line as well. I think most people would be amazed how much it costs in addition to the actual salary to have an employee(unemployment, work comp insurance, employment taxes, etc etc). I sure don't want to see that number go up.
that's kinda my thought as well. just like 401Ks, etc... it's income. somewhere along the way someone decided it was a good idea to not tax it, right?
maybe at the time it made sense to give a tax break, maybe it doesn't now. i really don't know.
but also, i haven't heard anything about free healthcare. i thought it was affordable health care that people could pay for without having to be in some group plan. part of what makes healthcare so expensive is the agreements with the insurance companies and the bloated nature of everything. that is why it needs to be reworked.
Sounds like the government would be the perfect entity to fix it then.
Well I'm not worried.
The Squanderer said he wouldn't raise taxes on anyone making below $200,000 and I believe him.
Don't you????
Is anybody else calling him "The Squanderer" or is that just something you came up with yourself?
Heck if I know.
I wouldn't be surprised if more people don't start calling him that given the amount of debt he has developed in just 5 months.
I call him the AKIC, as in a**-kisser-in-chief. That said, if his a** kissing world tours result in diminished threats from Islamic terrorism, pucker up.
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or we could just let it fail outright like we do with banking, housing, GM, etc... then pick up the pieces from thereSounds like the government would be the perfect entity to fix it then.
This is most of the problem, however government management is not the solution.
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i'm not saying goverment needs to do it, just that it needs to be done. if the government can get them to change by applying pressure, that would work to.
maybe when they see what's happening to Chrysler, GM, and the banks they will self-police themselves a little better
It goes back to the FDR imposed wage caps during WWII. Employers learned they could provide healthcare benefits as a sort of stealth wage increase and that would be kosher. It's never changed.
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.
"Without opportunities on the part of the poor to obtain expert legal advice, it is idle to talk of equality before the law"-- Justice Chas. Evans Hughes
Awesome!! A $600 Billion Tax Increase!!!!!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aqLNecbH0dcgHealth-care overhaul legislation being drafted by House Democrats will include $600 billion in tax increases and $400 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel said.
But again, I'm not worried. Obama promised.
honestly how did yall vote for him?
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