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    Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

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    Judge assails cases doubting Obama's citizenship
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Thursday threw out a lawsuit questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, lambasting the case as a waste of the court's time and suggesting the plaintiff's attorney may have to compensate the president's lawyer.

    In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

    In response last summer, Obama's campaign posted his Hawaiian birth certificate on its Web site. But the lawsuit argues it is a fake and that Obama was actually born in his father's homeland of Kenya, even though Hawaiian officials have said the document is authentic.

    "This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion.

    The lawsuit didn't even use Obama's legal name but called him "Barry Soetoro," the name he went by while attending elementary school in Indonesia. It's one of many that has been filed claiming Obama is ineligible to serve as president.

    Robertson ordered plaintiff's attorney John Hemenway of Colorado Springs, Colo., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out.

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    "The choices we discern as having been made in the Constitutional Convention impose burdens on governmental proceses that often seem clumsy, inefficient, even unworkable, but those hard choices were consciously made by men who had lived under a form of government that permitted arbitrary governmental acts to go unchecked." INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983) (Burger, C.J.)

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    IBD/L
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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    I will admit that I am not particularly informed on this one, but I am a little curious. The facts seem pretty straight forward to me. 1) People claimed that he was not born in the US because there wasn't a birth certificate. 2) He produced his birth certificate. 3) They said it's fake. 4) None of this matters because his Mother was a US citizen.

    What exactly are they trying to argue and what evidence do they have?

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    IB Rush, Tuba or 85 says something witty.

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    At the time of his birth, you had to either be born inside the United States or be the child of two US Citizens to be a natural-born citizen.

    They're trying to argue he was born in Kenya. They claim that the birth certificate posted on his website is a forgery, and have shown some inconclusive evidence that the document bears signs of having been tampered with in Photoshop.
    "The choices we discern as having been made in the Constitutional Convention impose burdens on governmental proceses that often seem clumsy, inefficient, even unworkable, but those hard choices were consciously made by men who had lived under a form of government that permitted arbitrary governmental acts to go unchecked." INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983) (Burger, C.J.)

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    I didnt Vote for him But I aint a Far out dude either .
    I think this Part is Funny as hell tho

    "This case, if it were allowed to proceed, would deserve mention in one of those books that seek to prove that the law is foolish or that America has too many lawyers with not enough to do," U.S. District Judge James Robertson said in his written opinion.
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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMack View Post
    IB Rush, Tuba or 85 says something witty.

    It's hard to talk with a mouth full of crow.

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Who is this Obama character you people keep talking about?
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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    Who is this Obama character you people keep talking about?
    [RLIMC]His real name is Barry Soetoro,you idiots.[/RLIMC]
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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Sooner View Post
    At the time of his birth, you had to either be born inside the United States or be the child of two US Citizens to be a natural-born citizen.

    They're trying to argue he was born in Kenya. They claim that the birth certificate posted on his website is a forgery, and have shown some inconclusive evidence that the document bears signs of having been tampered with in Photoshop.

    In the alternative, weren't they arguing that he was an Indonesian citizen (and a Muslim ) because of something his stepdad wrote an an Indonesian school enrollment form when Obama was 8? Because, you know, we allow US citizenship to be stripped away because of something a foreign stepparent writes on a school enrollment form, or something.

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    That very well could be. That'd explain the bizarre caption.
    "The choices we discern as having been made in the Constitutional Convention impose burdens on governmental proceses that often seem clumsy, inefficient, even unworkable, but those hard choices were consciously made by men who had lived under a form of government that permitted arbitrary governmental acts to go unchecked." INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983) (Burger, C.J.)

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Litigation is pointless at this stage. Even if plaintiffs could turn up conclusive and unassailable evidence the President is not a natural born US citizen, it wouldn't matter. No US court would put the country through the upheaval that would result as a result of a ruling he wasn't constitutionally qualified for the office.

    Therefore, IMHO, lawyers approached by these folks who wish to press the matter should have sent them a "You are stupid"* letter and declined the representation.

    *When client's turn up and insist on suing someone for some perceived slight, generally citing "the principle of the thing" as clients sometimes do, the lawyer should look into the matter. If the lawyer investigates and determines that even if he prevails, nothing much will change, or the cost of litigation far outweighs any possible benefit to the client, a friend of mine who has been successfully practicing for over thirty years sends them a letter. In that letter he calls his "you are stupid" letter, he tells them its simply not worth it, good luck with that, and to find someone else.
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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Seems to me that it should be easy to prove. So why is that every time it is thrown out, it is done so with no legal precedents but rather with a ho hum it doesn't matter opinion. Just curious. Doesn't matter either way he is in. BTW no crow here, Barry has done just about everything the right said he would and that is at light speed.
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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Why do we hold our politicians to a lower standard then they do us? many times in life I had to provide my BC to get something or other, why not for president?
    God, how I hate the 21st century.

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Quote Originally Posted by 1890MilesToNorman View Post
    Why do we hold our politicians to a lower standard then they do us? many times in life I had to provide my BC to get something or other, why not for president?
    Probably because most politicians can't live up to any higher standards. They are whoring garbage.

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    The inability of some to let go of a delusion is amusing. Obama HAS provided his birtch certificate.
    "The choices we discern as having been made in the Constitutional Convention impose burdens on governmental proceses that often seem clumsy, inefficient, even unworkable, but those hard choices were consciously made by men who had lived under a form of government that permitted arbitrary governmental acts to go unchecked." INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983) (Burger, C.J.)

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozen Sooner View Post
    The inability of some to let go of a delusion is amusing.

    I agree.

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    don't be so naive, he had to take the oath of office TWICE.

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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Quote Originally Posted by 85Sooner View Post
    Seems to me that it should be easy to prove. So why is that every time it is thrown out, it is done so with no legal precedents but rather with a ho hum it doesn't matter opinion. Just curious. Doesn't matter either way he is in. BTW no crow here, Barry has done just about everything the right said he would and that is at light speed.
    You do realize you're the right wing equivalent to a guy with a chicken-wire cage and a cinder block, correct?
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    Re: Judge throws Obama Citizenship suit out of court so hard it bounces

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Beanbag View Post
    I agree.
    Yeah. Some people are actually under the delusion they're an independent.
    "The choices we discern as having been made in the Constitutional Convention impose burdens on governmental proceses that often seem clumsy, inefficient, even unworkable, but those hard choices were consciously made by men who had lived under a form of government that permitted arbitrary governmental acts to go unchecked." INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983) (Burger, C.J.)

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