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    Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    This should end well.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29235292/

    MINGORA, Pakistan - Battle-weary residents welcomed a pro-Taliban cleric dispatched by the government Tuesday to convince militants in the former tourist haven of Swat to stop fighting in exchange for the imposition of Islamic law and suspension of military offensives there.

    Sufi Muhammad arrived in a caravan of some 300 vehicles in Swat Valley's main city of Mingora a day after he struck the truce, which a U.S. defense official called "negative" and critics said represented a surrender to extremists fanning out from nearby strongholds close to the Afghan border.

    NATO also expressed dismay. "We would all be concerned by a situation in which extremists would have safe haven," NATO spokesman James Appathurai said at a news briefing. "It is certainly reason for concern."
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    "We will soon open dialogue with Taliban. We will ask them to lay down their weapons. We are hopeful that they will not let us down," Muhammad told reporters. "We will stay here in the valley until peace is restored."

    Residents lined the route, waving and shouting "Long live peace! Long live Islam!"

    Extremists in Swat have beheaded opponents and torched scores of girls schools in recent months, while gunbattles between security forces and militants have killed hundreds. Up to a third of the valley's 1.5 million people have fled and the scenic area is now believed to be mostly under militant control.

    The provincial government in northwest Pakistan announced the deal Monday after it met with Islamists led by Muhammad, who has long demanded that Islamic, or Shariah, law be followed in this conservative corner of Pakistan. As part of the deal Muhammad agreed to travel to Swat and discuss peace with Maulana Fazlullah, the leader of the Swat Taliban and Muhammad's son-in-law.

    Muhammad was detained in 2002 after he sent thousands to fight U.S. troops in Afghanistan, but Pakistan freed him last year after he agreed to renounce violence. It is unclear how much influence he has over Fazlullah or exactly where they would meet, though a spokesman for the Swat Taliban leader welcomed Muhammad and has spoken positively of the truce.

    The Swat Taliban said Sunday they would observe an initial 10-day cease-fire in a show of good faith.

    Pakistan's inability to re-establish its authority in Swat has embarrassed the shaky civilian government and the military. However, Pakistani leaders insisted the deal was not a concession, but an attempt to fulfill demands by locals for a more efficient justice system and forge peace.

    "Those who want to live in a peaceful world will take steps like ours, and those who want to live in a violent world will take opposite steps," Northwest Frontier Province Information Minister Mian Iftikhar Hussain said in defense of the agreement. "The need of the hour is to put water on fire, not to fuel it."

    Some 2,000 militants are believed to operate in the valley, and, in defiance of the presence of some 10,000 paramilitary and army troops, they have already set up their own courts, meting out punishments in line with an exceptionally harsh brand of Islamic law.

    Many analysts questioned whether the fighters would listen to Muhammad and said they doubted the deal would stop violence. Similar deals struck in the past have failed, including one last year in Swat that security officials said the insurgents used to regroup and re-arm.

    A senior U.S. Defense Department official, said "it is hard to view this as anything other than a negative development." He requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of relations with Pakistan and because he was not authorized to speak on the record.

    Officials said the main changes to the legal system under the agreement are included in existing laws that allow for Muslim clerics to advise judges when hearing cases and the setting up of an Islamic appeals court, which they said would ensure speedier and fairer justice.

    The rules do not ban female education or contain other strict interpretations of Shariah that have been demanded by many members of the Taliban in Pakistan — restrictions imposed by the Taliban regime in Afghanistan before it was ousted by the U.S.-led invasion in late 2001.

    Also Tuesday, a car bomb exploded near the residence of a local government official, killing three people and wounding 12 others on the outskirts of the main northwest city of Peshawar, police officer Sifwat Ghayur said.
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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    That's bad.
    You tell me it's the institution. Well, you know, you'd better free your mind instead.
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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    What's Obama's role in this?
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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by Curly Bill View Post
    What's Obama's role in this?
    He and OBL masterminded it of course.

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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    Good. Suck as many of them as possible into Afghanistan. Make them feel comfortable. Then obliterate them. That avoids the mess with working within Pakistan....

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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMack View Post
    He and OBL masterminded it of course.
    Of course you'd know.
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    "No amount of persuasion, advice, or threats is capable of re-arranging the age-long mechanism of Muslim states" - - Artyom Borovik, The Hidden War

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    I hope Pakistan understands this makes the region fair game? assuming BHO has the balls to go for it.
    God, how I hate the 21st century.

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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    Geography professor claims to have found Osama bin Laden

    A Californian geography professor has used techniques for hunting endangered species to pinpoint three houses in Pakistan where Osama bin Laden could be hiding.


    Using patterns of how animal species spread, the world's most wanted terrorist can be tracked down to a town in the tribal region of North West Pakistan it is claimed.

    By factoring in his need for security, electricity, high ceilings to accommodate his 6ft 4in frame and spare rooms for his bodyguards, the search can be further narrowed to three walled compounds.

    According to a team led by Thomas Gillespie, at the University of California in Los Angeles, bin Laden's location is "one of the most important political questions of our time".

    Mathematical models used to explain how animal species spread out say he should be close to where he was last spotted.

    Their research published in MIT International Review also concluded he should also be in a large town with a similar culture to Afghanistan where he can remain largely anonymous.

    The most likely candidate is in Parachinar, 12 miles inside Pakistan, which housed many mujahideen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s.

    Finally after looking at his need for electricity for dialysis, high walls, spare rooms for his entourage, and trees to hide from prying eyes, satellite pictures show just three suitable houses.

    "We believe that our work involves the first scientific approach to establishing his current location" the research concludes.

    "The methods are repeatable and can be updated with new information obtained from the US intelligence community."

    Kim Rossmo of Texas State University, who has worked with the military to find terrorists told USA Today: "The idea of identifying three buildings in a city of half a million especially one in a country the authors have likely never visited is somewhat overconfident."

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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    Whoooopeeeeeeeee "peace in the valley".
    Yeah,right.

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    "Spiraling Chaos" would sound like fun if it didn't involve nukes and extremists.

    It would also make a wonderful name for a rock band.
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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    "Spiraling Chaos" sounds like a description of me in the sack.

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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

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    "Shrinking Penis" sounds like a description of me in the sack.
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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    So, if the Taliban takes over Pakistan, doesn't that kind of solve the whole "there's no 'Taliban state' to go after" issue after 9/11?
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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by TUSooner View Post
    That's bad.
    I think it might be good. SoS Clinton is already on it saying she thinks they might be thinking of taking over control of Pakistan...which if they get control of Pakistan's Nukes...it won't be for long is my guess.

    It's about time we track those Muther ****ers down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacie View Post
    Geography professor claims to have found Osama bin Laden

    A Californian geography professor has used techniques for hunting endangered species to pinpoint three houses in Pakistan where Osama bin Laden could be hiding.


    Using patterns of how animal species spread, the world's most wanted terrorist can be tracked down to a town in the tribal region of North West Pakistan it is claimed.

    By factoring in his need for security, electricity, high ceilings to accommodate his 6ft 4in frame and spare rooms for his bodyguards, the search can be further narrowed to three walled compounds.

    According to a team led by Thomas Gillespie, at the University of California in Los Angeles, bin Laden's location is "one of the most important political questions of our time".

    Mathematical models used to explain how animal species spread out say he should be close to where he was last spotted.

    Their research published in MIT International Review also concluded he should also be in a large town with a similar culture to Afghanistan where he can remain largely anonymous.

    The most likely candidate is in Parachinar, 12 miles inside Pakistan, which housed many mujahideen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s.

    Finally after looking at his need for electricity for dialysis, high walls, spare rooms for his entourage, and trees to hide from prying eyes, satellite pictures show just three suitable houses.

    "We believe that our work involves the first scientific approach to establishing his current location" the research concludes.

    "The methods are repeatable and can be updated with new information obtained from the US intelligence community."

    Kim Rossmo of *Texas* State University, who has worked with the military to find terrorists told USA Today: "The idea of identifying three buildings in a city of half a million especially one in a country the authors have likely never visited is somewhat overconfident."
    Wow...a Technological Tracker. We've come along way since Buffalo Scouts.

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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    I think it might be good. SoS Clinton is already on it saying she thinks they might be thinking of taking over control of Pakistan...which if they get control of Pakistan's Nukes...it won't be for long is my guess.

    It's about time we track those Muther ****ers down.
    It was about time we tracked them down back in 2003 before someone got distracted.

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    Re: Pakistan hands over control of border region to Taliban

    It's funny that Pakistan has sat on their hands harboring these bastards when our last President said we would show no mercy in hunting down terrorists and then didn't do it.

    I think this might be Pres. Obamas first real test here.

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