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    And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    A proposed coal fired electric plant in South Dakota has been scrapped. Details: http://watthead.blogspot.com/2009/01...sed-south.html
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Pssst....it's 2009, not 1909.

    Thanks.

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    They will not be satisfied until we are all riding bicycles. They don't care what effect their decisions make on regular folks or domestic industry, as long as it is the "green" thing to do.

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by Condescending Sooner View Post
    They will not be satisfied until we are all riding bicycles. They don't care what effect their decisions make on regular folks or domestic industry, as long as it is the "green" thing to do.
    Or maybe driving this:


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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    You do know that you have to burn coal to make that car run, right??

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMack View Post
    Pssst....it's 2009, not 1909.

    Thanks.
    You still gonna be singing the praises of socialism while standing in front of the abandoned mass transit station, selling Chinese pencils and Cuban-like cigars?haha
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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    No worries, The One has promised to have us off all hydrocarbons in 9.5 years.

    So start buying your dilithium crystals NOW!

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaTuba View Post
    You do know that you have to burn coal to make that car run, right??
    Paradigm shifts are hard. I get that.

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by Condescending Sooner View Post
    They will not be satisfied until we are all riding bicycles. They don't care what effect their decisions make on regular folks or domestic industry, as long as it is the "green" thing to do.
    The same type of thing can be said about the other side. They don't care what effect their decisions make on future folks, as long as it's the easy thing to do.

    There has to be some middle ground.
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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMack View Post
    Or maybe driving this:

    You give me a sticker price under 13,000, and we'll talk. Also, would you mind asking the people to quit making those batteries because it's poisoning my world?

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pricetag View Post
    There has to be some middle ground.
    There is. The problem is that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and the nutjobs on either side squeak (squawk!) loudest.

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaTuba View Post
    You do know that you have to burn coal to make that car run, right??
    No. I'm still not sure that's the answer, but it doesn't necessarily take coal to make it run (other than the coal it takes to build the car).

    http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/lvvwd/27686/

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Eh, hydrogen fuel cells are just a way of storing energy.

    You could make the car run by burning coal, but you could also make it run by nuclear power, solar power, geothermal power, hydroelectric, tidal, or good old natural gas. Basically, any mechanism we might have for making electricity can be used to power a hydrogen fuel cell.

    In the United States, that often does mean coal. But that's because that's what we have in terms of infrastructure; that's not actually the way it has to be.

    Which kind of wraps around to the original article.

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    And personally, I don't much like hydrogen as a fuel. The energy density is crap, and storing it is difficult.

    I'd much rather find a way to efficiently synthesize gasoline and diesel, and have technology that scrubs emissions clean.

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pricetag View Post
    The same type of thing can be said about the other side. They don't care what effect their decisions make on future folks, as long as it's the easy thing to do.

    There has to be some middle ground.
    haha, the obligatory moral equivance argument.
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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    If the War on Coal is as effective as the War on Drugs, we'll soon be up to up eyes in coal.... and blood and corruption too!
    You tell me it's the institution. Well, you know, you'd better free your mind instead.
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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Do yourself( and me) a favor....invest in solar.
    Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.

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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    haha, the obligatory moral equivance argument.
    Finding an equivalent to inane babble is hard, just sayin'.
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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    You still gonna be singing the praises of socialism while standing in front of the abandoned mass transit station, selling Chinese pencils and Cuban-like cigars?haha
    I finally figured it out (and it was always so obvious):
    ANY public policy you don't like is "socialism."
    It certainly does simplify the discussion!
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    Re: And so begins the US WAR ON COAL!

    Quote Originally Posted by TUSooner View Post
    I finally figured it out (and it was always so obvious):
    ANY public policy you don't like is "socialism."
    It certainly does simplify the discussion!
    The solutions for (haha)"global warming" are to grant the govt. more control over the economy. Maybe that's not socialism to you, but it quacks like a duck.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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