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    Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Wow...this is amazing! If this doesn't bother you...then there's nothing left to say.

    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Folks can spin this any way they want. The simple fact is, at least on the day this was taped in 2001, BHO lamented the fact the Court did not go far enough by merely making equal rights the law of the land under Chief Justice Earl Warren. In this interview in 2001, BHO proposes a government that takes steps to impose economic equality. Call it "economic justice," call it "wealth redistribution," even call it <gasp>"socialism." It's the same thing. That's what he said, and that's the kind of guy who will be making national executive policy if he wins.

    If that's what the American people want in their president, fair enough. If it isn't, they have a choice.
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    it doesn't bother me, so I guess there is nothing left to say



    thread ovar!!!!

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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by OKLA21FAN View Post
    it doesn't bother me, so I guess there is nothing left to say



    thread ovar!!!!
    You haven't studied history much, have you? I can tell you that this has been done by other governments, and more often than not, it became a violent and oppressive affair, followed by a collapse in GDP. Zimbabwe would be an extreme example, I guess, but an example none the less. It's your country. Want to turn it into a 3rd world nation with different factions shooting at each other? Go for it.
    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    i think some of this is semantics

    my thoughts on "redistribution of wealth" is slowing down the "rich get richer" trend

    something like 90% of the money in this country is controlled by 10% of the population

    do i think we should punish successful people? no

    do i think it shouldn't be as easy for them to exploit the people who aren't? yes

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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk View Post
    You haven't studied history much, have you? I can tell you that this has been done by other governments, and more often than not, it became a violent and oppressive affair, followed by a collapse in GDP. Zimbabwe would be an extreme example, I guess, but an example none the less. It's your country. Want to turn it into a 3rd world nation with different factions shooting at each other? Go for it.

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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Anyone watch Hanitty's America last night?? Top 10 reasons why NOT to vote for BA-RACK.

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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post

    do i think it shouldn't be as easy for them to exploit the people who aren't? yes
    One can't be exploited unless they allow it.
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    something like 90% of the money in this country is controlled by 10% of the population
    Name an industrialized capitalist society anywhere on Earth in which this has not been the case, give or take a point or two.

    The simple truth of the matter is, this is the way capitalism works. We only have all of recorded history as a guide, but attempts to redistribute and/or re-apportion those percentages generally leads to widespread bloodshed, suffering and unspeakable horrors and ultimately, failure to accomplish the goal.
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    hell + handbasket = this country
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by 85Sooner View Post
    One can't be exploited unless they allow it.
    You mean sort of like the way the public buys its petroleum fuels? gotcha

    I didnt allow it, my ancestors did and now I'm paying for it.
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    i think some of this is semantics

    my thoughts on "redistribution of wealth" is slowing down the "rich get richer" trend

    something like 90% of the money in this country is controlled by 10% of the population

    do i think we should punish successful people? no

    do i think it shouldn't be as easy for them to exploit the people who aren't? yes
    agreed.
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    What I think is funny is how some rich people are publicly supporting Obama's tax policies (I assume so they won't look like big rich meanies) while I suspect at the same time, they're desperately looking for loopholes so they don't have to pay the increased taxes.

    Yes, that's speculation but I'll be it's going on a lot right now.

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    I know I said I wasn't going to do this...*sigh*

    Methinks that if you guys were IN that 10% and trying to exploit, you'd feel a bit differently.
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Um... is it just me, or is paying taxes in general considered redistribution of wealth?

    If we were just paying the government for goods and services, wouldn't it make sense that we'd all pay the same price for the same thing? But then, the government charges more to people who make and have more money, thus... redistribution of wealth.

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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
    Um... is it just me, or is paying taxes in general considered redistribution of wealth?

    If we were just paying the government for goods and services, wouldn't it make sense that we'd all pay the same price for the same thing? But then, the government charges more to people who make and have more money, thus... redistribution of wealth.
    This also makes you ask who uses the goods and services provided by the government more?
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Okla-homey View Post
    ...widespread bloodshed, suffering and unspeakable horrors and ultimately, failure to accomplish the goal.
    Good point, Badger.

    Redistribution of wealth doesn't necessarily involve handouts. It could be in the form of actual policies proposed by both the McCain and Obama camps, such as:

    Financial support for continuing education and training
    Tax breaks for the middle class
    Promotion and financing of home ownership
    Minimum wage
    Access to credit for small businesses

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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Bao View Post
    Good point, Badger.

    Redistribution of wealth doesn't necessarily involve handouts. It could be in the form of actual policies proposed by both the McCain and Obama camps, such as:

    Financial support for continuing education and training
    Tax breaks for the middle class
    Promotion and financing of home ownership
    Minimum wage
    Access to credit for small businesses
    Smells like LBJ's "Great Society" initiatives that have been such a resounding success in eliminating poverty. Same song, 187th verse.
    "Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.

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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Promotion and financing of home ownership
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    Re: Obama on redistribution of wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Okla-homey View Post
    Smells like LBJ's "Great Society" initiatives that have been such a resounding success in eliminating poverty. Same song, 187th verse.
    Ummm what? What are you saying? LBJ didn't eliminate poverty? So throw out the whole concept of fiscal support for the underprivileged?

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