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    Obama Supporters....

    What has BHO done that causes you to vote for him?
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    Re: Obama Supporters....

    ran for President

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    It does not matter, he has this election in his pocket. Lets just move on

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    It was a pretty close call up until McCain picked Palin. Had he picked a moderate VP (someone more like himself) I think the race right now would be neck-and-neck. He gave in to the religious right and "strengthened the base" of the Republicans, but at the cost of neglecting all those moderates, independents and lost Hillary voters, and it really hurt him. He's not the same McCain as 2000. If he were to die in office, Palin would run the country into the ground.
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    Seriously, another one of these?

    Look - he's the Democrat nominee and "Republican President" might as well be a four-letter-word in the minds of the voting majority this year. There's your ultimate deciding factor.

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    He wrote a couple of pretty decent books and has held strong on the fact that he didn't vote for this colossal ****-up folks call a War...plus he took on Hillary.

    Taking out Hillary shows he's smart and has the balls to be POTUS IMO.

    All I heard prior to him getting into the race was OMG...they are going to elect Hillary in '08....the end of the World is upon us!

    Then he entered...knocked her out of the race...

    And...

    Those same people are screaming...'It's the end of the World".

    That part of it cracks me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oumartin View Post
    It does not matter, he has this election in his pocket. Lets just move on
    The most accurate pollster of 2004 says:
    McCain has cut into Obama's lead for a second day and is now just 1.1 points behind. The spread was 3.7 Wednesday and 6.0 Tuesday. The Republican is making headway with middle- and working- class voters, and has surged 10 points in two days among those earning between $30,000 and $75,000. He has also gone from an 11-point deficit to a 9-point lead among Catholics.
    ibdeditorials.com
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    Not a supporter of socialism here, but IMO its cause he comes across as someone who isn't the establishment.

    That appears to appeal to many who don't fully understand the consequences of electing a radical leftist on their everyday life.

    The next two years will be really hard, and I think the markets are responding to that reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by froneal View Post
    It was a pretty close call up until McCain picked Palin.
    Actually, the moment he picked Palin, he started leading Obama in the polls.

    It wasn't until the market started crashing that he gave up his lead.

    Palin is the only reason he isn't losing by 20-30 points, as the conservative base would just stay home this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    He wrote a couple of pretty decent books and has held strong on the fact that he didn't vote for this colossal ****-up folks call a War...plus he took on Hillary.

    Taking out Hillary shows he's smart and has the balls to be POTUS IMO.
    Was he a Senator when the war vote was taken?

    Taking out the most untrusted pol in America qualifies one as Prez?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    Taking out Hillary shows he's smart and has the balls to be POTUS IMO.
    Thats not a very high bar to set there.

    Hillary was horrible.

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    How many abortions had Obama's Wife had?

    Would that be pertinent to his view on Abortion?

    Has anyone point blank asked her?

    I bet that would be YouTube's Top Video of the Year.

    I can see the steam coming out of her ears just thinking about it.

    What about Cindy McCain?

    Heck...lets get em both in front of the camera and ask them at the same time.

    I think it would be classic.

    Kind of a nice opening question to those two debating the abortion issue.

    Get it all out on the table.

    That's the kind of 1st Lady I'm looking for...

    I'm just kidding about the debate part...let's just find someone who'll ask the question...hmmmm...what's Howard Sterns email addy?

    BRB

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    Quote Originally Posted by swardboy View Post
    Was he a Senator when the war vote was taken?

    Taking out the most untrusted pol in America qualifies one as Prez?
    He was a Senator during the War wasn't he?

    Has he voted for anything that continued to string this thing out?

    What poll are you talking about Sward?

    Did I mention any poll in my answer?

    Before you muther ****'n post read my answer...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaTuba View Post
    Actually, the moment he picked Palin, he started leading Obama in the polls.
    It meant in my own opinion, it was close up until then. I think she's a friggin' nutbar. I miss the McCain of 2000.
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    Re: Obama Supporters....

    Didn't we have this exact thread like 12 hours ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoopTroup View Post
    He was a Senator during the War wasn't he?

    Has he voted for anything that continued to string this thing out?

    What poll are you talking about Sward?

    Did I mention any poll in my answer?

    Before you muther ****'n post read my answer...lol
    "Pol"...short for "politician" dumb***

    We'll never know how bho would have acted on the actual vote...trends indicate "Present"

    I love your suggestion for a candidates' wives debate...that would absolutely rock!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OklahomaTuba View Post
    Actually, the moment he picked Palin, he started leading Obama in the polls.

    It wasn't until the market started crashing that he gave up his lead.

    Palin is the only reason he isn't losing by 20-30 points, as the conservative base would just stay home this year.
    Wrong. His numbers started sliding BEFORE the markets crashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swardboy View Post
    The most accurate pollster of 2004 says:
    ibdeditorials.com
    See if you can find the massive error he made on that poll. It should be easy to spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swardboy View Post
    "Pol"...short for "politician" dumb***

    I love your suggestion for a candidates' wives debate...that would absolutely rock!!!
    BTW...you might want to also read the speech he gave at the October 2002 Speech he did...it was a pretty bold statement for a guy that has come all this way to possibly be the next POTUS.

    It sure hasn't seemed to hurt him any either...

    "I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances. The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil.

    I Don't Oppose All Wars

    I don't oppose all wars. My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil.

    I don't oppose all wars. After September 11, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such tragedy from happening again.

    Opposed to Dumb, Rash Wars

    I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

    What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

    That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

    On Saddam Hussein

    Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.... The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

    But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors...and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

    I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.

    I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

    I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president.

    You Want a Fight, President Bush?

    You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.

    You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure that...we vigorously enforce a nonproliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.

    You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

    You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil through an energy policy that doesn't simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.

    Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair."
    I myself though it was pretty good.

    Just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by froneal View Post
    It meant in my own opinion, it was close up until then. I think she's a friggin' nutbar. I miss the McCain of 2000.
    Obama was up 12 pts the days before Palin was selected.

    McCain had the lead in the next week and held it for a few weeks.

    Not sure why you think she is a nutbar though. You may want to re-examine your thoughts there as well.

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