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    Too the Obama nation

    I ask this with complete respect, I am just curious...

    Why does it not bother you about Rezko

    why does it not bother you about Ayers(especially with all the new stuff coming out showing much stronger ties than Obama has let on)

    Why does the ACORN issue not bother you

    Why does it not bother you that the US military and its members favor Mccain 3-1, these are the people who defend our rights

    Why does it not bother you that Obamas very own VP nominee has said on two diff occasions that Obama is not fit to be president(pre-nomination) and that Obama will not only be attacked within 6 months, but he wont know how to handle it(post-nomination)

    Is it an overall hatred of Bush that you just have to have change, is it that you dont believe the stuff, is it because you choose to ignore it, is there another reason?

    I am seriously curious, not trying to be disrespectful or condescending in any way
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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    its human nature to ignore the things that go against what we want. i think the blinding hatred for bush has seeped into hatred of republians, and mccain. what's ironic is that mccain is more moderate and isnt great friends with the republican base. he can get things done on both sides, and we know what we are getting .
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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    I had an obamian tell me yesterday that it was to protect Roe Vs Wade. I thought......that is so ten years ago and trust me when I say that will never be a decision she has to make uggggggg
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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Quote Originally Posted by 85Sooner View Post
    I had an obamian tell me yesterday that it was to protect Roe Vs Wade.
    Thats a whole other issue that needs to be delt with
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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Quote Originally Posted by Collier11 View Post
    I ask this with complete respect, I am just curious...

    Why does it not bother you about Rezko.

    Because I don't find it particularly sinister that Tony Rezko bought an adjoining piece of property and then sold it

    why does it not bother you about Ayers(especially with all the new stuff coming out showing much stronger ties than Obama has let on)

    Because the Ayers stuff is completely irrelevant. He knows the guy. Why does John McCain's ties to anti-Semites and Latin American Death Squads not bother you?

    Why does the ACORN issue not bother you

    What ACORN issue? That some fraudulent registrations were turned in as ACORN was required to do by Federal Law even if they had reason to suspect they were fraudulent?

    Why does it not bother you that the US military and its members favor Mccain 3-1, these are the people who defend our rights

    Why are military donations favoring Obama over McCain? And why would this bother me anyhow?

    Why does it not bother you that Obamas very own VP nominee has said on two diff occasions that Obama is not fit to be president(pre-nomination) and that Obama will not only be attacked within 6 months, but he wont know how to handle it(post-nomination)

    He did not say the second. He said that he would likely be tested, not that he wouldn't know how to handle it. The first was said during a primary battle.

    Is it an overall hatred of Bush that you just have to have change, is it that you dont believe the stuff, is it because you choose to ignore it, is there another reason?

    I am seriously curious, not trying to be disrespectful or condescending in any way
    You failed.

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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    They could come out with videos of him snorting coke off a hookers *** and it wouldn't affect the way they vote.

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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Not really Froze. You just did exactly what he expected you to do. Minimize/poo poo everything, and say "what about McCain?"

    Your boy has a lot of baggage that you lovers are ignoring. Denying it, or minimizing it doesn't make it not so.

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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Quote Originally Posted by Condescending Sooner View Post
    They could come out with videos of him snorting coke off a hookers *** and it wouldn't affect the way they vote.
    It would make them more fervent. It'd make him more "real" in their eyes. They're kinda weird that way.

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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    The 'baggage' gets minimized by supporters because they realize it's minimally important.
    We have always known that heedless self-interest was bad morals; we know now that it is bad economics. FDR.

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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Rich View Post
    You failed.
    Way to answer like a pompus Lib, if you want to take that tone I will with you personally

    1) wool over eyes much

    2) How is the Ayers stuff completely irrelevant, the guy is a Terrorist, he is an anarchist, he hates America, Obama has close ties to him...not to mention Wright. But now Obama says he had no idea, Ignorance is bliss

    3)Because Obama is tied to them and they are committing voter fraud

    4) It should bother you that the people defending this country think that Mccain would be a better POTUS and be better suited to handle a crisis

    5) He did say the 2nd, read the whole quote...so what Biden says in the primary shouldnt be taken as fact now?
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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerInKCMO View Post
    The 'baggage' gets minimized by supporters because they realize it's minimally important.
    Thats the problem, these are REAL issues that you think arent important
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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerInKCMO View Post
    The 'baggage' gets minimized by supporters because they realize it's minimally important.
    Really? That's how y'all do it?

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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Make a lunch reservation for 2 in a couple of years for froz and Osama because the statute if limitations will be up

    Just kidden froz
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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Rich View Post
    You failed.
    How exactly is asking honest questions failure?

    this might be the absolute dumbest post I have ever seen.

    I really thought you were better than that.
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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Quote Originally Posted by Collier11 View Post
    I ask this with complete respect, I am just curious...

    Why does it not bother you about Rezko?

    because buying and selling land happens everyday.


    why does it not bother you about Ayers(especially with all the new stuff coming out showing much stronger ties than Obama has let on)?

    I'll admit I've been working lots of overtime so I have not seen "the new" stuff. But if it is anything like the "old stuff", i suppose I'm not bothered by it anymore than you are about republican members who have worked with him.


    Why does the ACORN issue not bother you?

    ACORN does bother me. I think it is a rampant example of employee fraud-- wages paid for work not done. Each employee who accepted payment for fraudulent registrations should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

    Why does it not bother you that the US military and its members favor Mccain 3-1, these are the people who defend our rights?

    So, you're saying the lesser percent should be ashamed for favoring Obama? They defend our rights also. God bless 'em.

    P.S. Where do you get these figures? Family members tell me politicking is frowned upon in service, so how are these figures being comprised? (I'm not being condescending, I'm just really curious. )


    Why does it not bother you that Obamas very own VP nominee has said on two diff occasions that Obama is not fit to be president(pre-nomination) and that Obama will not only be attacked within 6 months, but he wont know how to handle it(post-nomination)?

    Because Biden was trying to win the primaries. Kinda like when Bush and cronies wanted everyone to believe John McCain was not mentally stable enough to be president. People say what will help them win. I've also never seen, heard or read about Biden saying Obama would fail when being tested. And news flash, any new president will be tested.

    Is it an overall hatred of Bush that you just have to have change, is it that you dont believe the stuff, is it because you choose to ignore it, is there another reason?

    Yes, there is another reason. Because I value my vote as much as you value yours, and I am fortunate enough to express that vote as I see fit.

    Hope you all vote. It's great that we can.

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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Rich View Post
    You failed.
    I ask this with complete respect, I am just curious...

    Why does it not bother you about Rezko.

    Because I don't find it particularly sinister that Tony Rezko bought an adjoining piece of property and then sold it.

    Even though Obama was in on the deal and Rezko is enjoying a federal pound *** prison as we speak. I am sure nothing went on illegal there because the prisons are filled with innocent men.

    why does it not bother you about Ayers(especially with all the new stuff coming out showing much stronger ties than Obama has let on)

    Because the Ayers stuff is completely irrelevant. He knows the guy. Why does John McCain's ties to anti-Semites and Latin American Death Squads not bother you? Even though he is an admitted Terrorist who has reaffirmed his anarchists wishes as recently as 2002 and Been on boards and shared decisions regarding the allocation of brain washing oops I mean education dollars as well as owning the home at which the first Obama campaign was launched. Great set of friends.

    Why does the ACORN issue not bother you

    One of the many meaningfull organizations Obama funneled money to.What ACORN issue? That some fraudulent registrations were turned in as ACORN was required to do by Federal Law even if they had reason to suspect they were fraudulent? Teenager was registered 73 times. VOTE EARLY VOTE OFTEN I SAY

    Why does it not bother you that the US military and its members favor Mccain 3-1, these are the people who defend our rights

    Why are military donations favoring Obama over McCain? And why would this bother me anyhow? Heck, who knows where all the money is coming from. I havn't talked to anyone and Obama isn't naming names.

    Why does it not bother you that Obamas very own VP nominee has said on two diff occasions that Obama is not fit to be president(pre-nomination) and that Obama will not only be attacked within 6 months, but he wont know how to handle it(post-nomination)

    He did not say the second. He said that he would likely be tested, not that he wouldn't know how to handle it. The first was said during a primary battle. True but other than that we need a good testing from Iran, China, Russia or one of those guys.

    Is it an overall hatred of Bush that you just have to have change, is it that you dont believe the stuff, is it because you choose to ignore it, is there another reason?
    DING DING DING DING DING

    No seriously I think they think he can change things but change can go one of two ways and His background leads me to the conclusion that his is the WRONG way. Not that its going Great now but his policies are potentially going to do great harm to everyone.
    I am seriously curious, not trying to be disrespectful or condescending in any way
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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    Does it bother any McCain/Palin supporters that Palin attends a church that among other things is know for speaking in tongues and preparing for the end of days? Or that she sat through anti-semitic sermons and was exorcised by a Kenyan Witch-Hunter?

    Does it bother any McCain/Palin supporters that McCain and G. Gordon Liddy pal around together?

    Does it bother any McCain/Palin supporters that Palin pulled a giant socialist deal in stripping oil companies of their wealth and then redistributed it to her people, yet she still calls Obama a socialist?

    Does McCain's gambling problem and philandering ways bother anyone?

    On to your post.

    Why does it not bother you about Rezko

    What did he do with Rezko that was illegal or wrong? If he did something illegal why didn't the USA indict Obama alongside Rezko?

    why does it not bother you about Ayers(especially with all the new stuff coming out showing much stronger ties than Obama has let on)

    Obama and Ayers service on that Annenberg Foundation board (the same Annenbergs who are McCain donors/supporters) means what? Seriously. When they were on that board together do you think BA was handing Obama Weather Underground pamphlets and trying to convert him? My problem with the Ayers relationship is, "so what?" Who gives a ****? It goes back to the G. Gordon Liddy argument. I mean if Obama is a terrorist because he "pals around" with Ayers, what would that make McCain? He's buddies with Liddy, does that mean he shares Gordo's views?

    Why does the ACORN issue not bother you

    By law the ACORN people have to turn in EVERY form that is filled out. It is up to the states to decide whether or not each form is good or not. I think ACORN was negligent in hiring people that weren't up to the task in some cases, but again, where is the smoking gun that some dip**** who got paid by the number of forms he had completed was somehow anything more than greedy and lazy? I think that the voter registration system in the U.S. should be easier and more accessible and it would minimize this kind of thing from happening, but it looks to me more like people looking to get paid quick for little work than it does a calculated effort at voter fraud.

    Why does it not bother you that the US military and its members favor Mccain 3-1, these are the people who defend our rights

    No. When was the last time a Military poll favored a Dem. nominee? Seriously. I don't know but I bet it's been a while. Military folks by their nature tend to be hawkish. Combine that with McCain's military service and no, I'm not bothered a bit.

    Why does it not bother you that Obamas very own VP nominee has said on two diff occasions that Obama is not fit to be president(pre-nomination) and that Obama will not only be attacked within 6 months, but he wont know how to handle it(post-nomination)

    People say all kinds of **** in primaries. They're trying to win. Go look at what Mitt Romney said about McCain in the primaries then get back to me. As far as the second part you've mangled what was said to bolivian. What Biden said was that Obama would face an international crisis within the first six months if elected. No ****? You think within the first six months ANY new POTUS wouldn't face some sort of international crisis? If McCain is elected will all the terrorists go Jar Jar Binks and collectively say "My give up!"?

    Is it an overall hatred of Bush that you just have to have change, is it that you dont believe the stuff, is it because you choose to ignore it, is there another reason?

    I don't hate Bush. I'm not fond of his policies and I'm not sorry his term is about up, but I certainly don't hate him. I boiled it down to three viable candidates earlier this year (HRC, JSM & BHO) and decided that BHO was the one who's proposals were most in line with my system of beliefs. BHO is far from my ideal candidate, but I feel that he's the best choice.

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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    With a good many Obama voters, at this point it's moved way, way, way, way beyond "the issues" or any of those facts you pointed out, and has become an affectation. Almost like a chic accoutrement to a trendy lifestyle. That's why their tender widdle feelers get hurt at the slightest criticism of the Democratic nominee - it's as if you're criticizing their decision to wear white after labor day (no pun intended).

    You think it's bad now? Just wait till he wins - and I think he will win - cause you ain't seen nothing yet. Any criticism - no matter the issue or validity of the criticism - of President Obama will bring, a priori and without hesitation, accusations of "racism," "bigotry," "hatred," blah, blah, blah. Congressman Murtha has already started the ball rolling in this regard, and the election hasn't even been held yet. But that's the tactic that will be used to try and silence critics and squelch dissent, mark my words.
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    Just like a fly to ****. You can count on that Johnny Mack.

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    Re: Too the Obama nation

    I appreciate everyones views whether I agree or not, this is what I was looking for when I started this thread...One thing though, JohhnyMack you said that I mangled Bidens quote, I didnt. I didnt say he would fail, I said that Bidens quote was that he would be tested and he would not be prepared to handle it
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