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    Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    We now have her campaign manager, Howard Wolfson, is saying that if the press had come forward with the John Edwards scandal.......she would won Iowa. He stops there but why bring it up, you want a redo?

    I hope every democratic voter can see what Hillary is trying to do and make sure she's not a candidate in a '12 election if Obama loses.

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by soonersn20xx View Post
    We now have her campaign manager, Howard Wolfson, is saying that if the press had come forward with the John Edwards scandal.......she would won Iowa. He stops there but why bring it up, you want a redo?

    I hope every democratic voter can see what Hillary is trying to do and make sure she's not a candidate in a '12 election if Obama loses.

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    She makes a good point. Afterall, if Edwards hadn't been on the ticket, she could have wrapped up the nomination. In effect, Edwards was her spoiler. Kinda like Ross Perot was for GHWB.
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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Okla-homey View Post
    She makes a good point. Afterall, if Edwards hadn't been on the ticket, she could have wrapped up the nomination. In effect, Edwards was her spoiler. Kinda like Ross Perot was for GHWB.
    Well after I posted this, a TV reporter stated that the polling data showed that 43% compared to 24% would voted for Obama if Edwards wasn't on the ticket..........so he actually would have won by a larger percentage. Howard Wolfson had to know this fact which makes me think that it's more of a case of sour grapes or a blatant attempt to create disharmony.

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by soonersn20xx View Post
    Well after I posted this, a TV reporter stated that the polling data showed that 43% compared to 24% would voted for Obama if Edwards wasn't on the ticket..........so he actually would have won by a larger percentage. Howard Wolfson had to know this fact which makes me think that it's more of a case of sour grapes or a blatant attempt to create disharmony.

    Don't confuse the issue with the facts. This is about sewing discord among the Donks! Me likey.
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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by soonersn20xx View Post
    Well after I posted this, a TV reporter stated that the polling data showed that 43% compared to 24% would voted for Obama if Edwards wasn't on the ticket..........so he actually would have won by a larger percentage. Howard Wolfson had to know this fact which makes me think that it's more of a case of sour grapes or a blatant attempt to create disharmony.
    polling data from when?

    from today or from when the voting occured

    can't trust statistics based on hindsight all that well
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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by soonerboomer93 View Post
    polling data from when?

    from today or from when the voting occured

    can't trust statistics based on hindsight all that well
    This was exit polling data at the time of the caucus.

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    I think that recent history shows that a one-time prez candidate is only one-time. With that in mind, it must have been the letdown of a lifetime for Hillary to be told 'no thanks' by the voters. I mean, this is what she has prepared for ever since becoming Bill Clinton's wife! Everything she's done up to this point was in preparation to become a president, and not just any president, but the first woman president in American history! Why else would she put up with Bill for this long?! Companionship??? Pbthhh.

    As such, she might be a little bitter on how things turned out and has chosen not to blame herself, but one rising star Democrat that became a more significant milestone than "first woman" in this era of media-driven political hype.

    Hillary's presidential aspirations are not over, but her viable candidacy definitely is. Once a loser, always a loser in the eyes of the media and voting public.

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    Richard Nixon????? "You won't have me to kick around anymore!"


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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    If Obama loses and McCain gets into office it will be years before a republican gets back into the WH! If Obama gets in there he likely will do just as bad a job so I'm voting McCain!

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    George Bush for King!!!

    Call off the elections!!!
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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    I hope she does sabotage him...they were made for each other!

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    I hope she loses weight and does a spread for Hustler.
    People don't know what it is to be a champion.

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by soonersn20xx View Post
    Well after I posted this, a TV reporter stated that the polling data showed that 43% compared to 24% would voted for Obama if Edwards wasn't on the ticket..........so he actually would have won by a larger percentage. Howard Wolfson had to know this fact which makes me think that it's more of a case of sour grapes or a blatant attempt to create disharmony.
    I once heard a TV reporter declare Al Gore president. I also saw on TV monkeys fly out of a person's butt--no wait, that was Bruce Almighty. Sorry.

    And, if this causes strife within the the party, I'm for it. Go Hillary! I can't wait for that convention.


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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    I didn't realize a cite was required for every statement that is made in this forum............if there is contention over the issue then one might be necessary.

    Also, it's rather obvious that the right would relish in this..........so if you don't have anything significant to add to the topic maybe you shouldn't.

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    Hillary needs liposuction and a boob job.

    The AP says so.

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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    I think I'm being admonished.

    I did add something positive. I love the fact there is going to be a crack in the Dem Matrix--and it's going to have long term repercussions.


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    Re: Is Hillary Trying to Sabotage Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by soonersn20xx View Post
    I didn't realize a cite was required for every statement that is made in this forum....
    I never said you did. I only made the statement I saw Al Gore get announced President--and monkeys flew out of somebody's butt.


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