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    Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    The Associated Press brings us some good news from Baghdad:

    Militants killed fewer U.S. and NATO troops in Iraq in June than in Afghanistan for the second straight month, an encouraging milestone capping a run of headline-grabbing coalition victories that analysts say underscore the Iraqi insurgency's diminishing strength.
    Whoops, sorry! That's not how the AP wrote it. It's actually a dispatch from Kabul, and it is bad news:

    Militants killed more U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan in June than in Iraq for the second straight month, a grim milestone capping a run of headline-grabbing insurgent attacks that analysts say underscore the Taliban's growing strength.

    We're not saying our spin is better than the AP's, but why not just report the facts. Is it really necessary to "spin" at all?



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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Good point.

    Some Taliban jackholes blew up a mud prison near Kandahar and a bunch of their homies got loose. The coalition had to hunt them down and kill them. Some coalition troops got hurt in the process, more in fact than were hurt in Iraq last month where the new US approach is proving to be effective and decisive. That is hardly a resurgent Taliban if you ask me, but, hey, I'm not a highly trained and objective journalist.
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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Okla-homey View Post
    Good point.

    Some Taliban jackholes blew up a mud prison near Kandahar and a bunch of their homies got loose. The coalition had to hunt them down and kill them. Some coalition troops got hurt in the process, more in fact than were hurt in Iraq last month where the new US approach is proving to be effective and decisive. That is hardly a resurgent Taliban if you ask me, but, hey, I'm not a highly trained and objective journalist.
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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    they spin it so they can fill the page. you get 3 sentences out of their spin other wise you only get 1 sentence which is pretty depressing.... x number of people were killed in iraq, x number of people were killed in afghanistan
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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by sooner n houston View Post
    The Associated Press brings us some good news from Baghdad:

    Militants killed fewer U.S. and NATO troops in Iraq in June than in Afghanistan for the second straight month, an encouraging milestone capping a run of headline-grabbing coalition victories that analysts say underscore the Iraqi insurgency's diminishing strength.
    Whoops, sorry! That's not how the AP wrote it. It's actually a dispatch from Kabul, and it is bad news:

    Militants killed more U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan in June than in Iraq for the second straight month, a grim milestone capping a run of headline-grabbing insurgent attacks that analysts say underscore the Taliban's growing strength.

    We're not saying our spin is better than the AP's, but why not just report the facts. Is it really necessary to "spin" at all?



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    What is erroneous about what they wrote?

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMack View Post
    What is erroneous about what they wrote?
    I didn't see any one saying there was anything erroneous about what they wrote.

    Maybe you need to look up the definentions for bias and error. Compare and contrast!

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    You don't like it so they must be biased. Typical.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Reading comprehension is a lost art.
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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Give JM a break. Afterall, he's dumb enough to support Brack. He knows not what he does most of the time.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    More liberal media bias? (albeit on a different subject and not so subtle)

    Obama Got Discount on Home Loan

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?nav=hcmodule

    Surprised WaPo even reported it, but of course it's a day late (American Thinker had it yesterday).

    And it's on pg. 3.

    Conservatives with this in their lap? Guaranteed front and center treatment.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesNessman View Post
    More liberal media bias? (albeit on a different subject and not so subtle)

    Obama Got Discount on Home Loan

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?nav=hcmodule

    Surprised WaPo even reported it, but of course it's a day late (American Thinker had it yesterday).

    And it's on pg. 3.

    Conservatives with this in their lap? Guaranteed front and center treatment.
    WTF does that have to do with anything? A bank gave him a rate that was lower than someone elses? ZOMG!!!! You've apparently never bought a house.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Given only the info noted in the first post...that "More US and NATO troops were killed in Afghanistan than Iraq for the second straight month", nobody can really say whether this is an encouraging milestone or a grim milestone. You need more information. Which numbers are trending up and which are trending down. Just the relation between the two tells you nothing.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    All news outlets suck. They all spin. You have to look past it.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ike View Post
    Given only the info noted in the first post...that "More US and NATO troops were killed in Afghanistan than Iraq for the second straight month", nobody can really say whether this is an encouraging milestone or a grim milestone. You need more information. Which numbers are trending up and which are trending down. Just the relation between the two tells you nothing.
    True, but unless one has been living in a cave, they would know that the # of deaths in Iraq has been trending down. Way down.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner98 View Post
    True, but unless one has been living in a cave, they would know that the # of deaths in Iraq has been trending down. Way down.
    Yeah, but hardly anybody knows off the top of their heads what the # of deaths in Afghanistan has been doing. Has it been going up sharply recently? Up just a little? Staying the same? When talking about how to interpret these numbers, thats important too.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyMack View Post
    WTF does that have to do with anything? A bank gave him a rate that was lower than someone elses? ZOMG!!!! You've apparently never bought a house.
    It has everything to do with liberal media bias, which the original poster was pointing out. I was just pointing out that it wasn't as subtle as the original post.

    Not only did the Obamas get a very good deal, they were assisted by now convicted felon Tony Rezko, who was under grand jury indictment at the time. And that makes p.3 news a day after the story breaks? Isn't that a major story deserving immediate front page attention?

    If it were a conservative politician who received that loan, assisted by a shady developer, I guarand@%#ty you he or she would be plastered all over the front pages of the liberal media, for weeks.

    FYI...I have purchased a house before, and getting a loan that big, at that interest rate with no points just doesn't happen without some preferrential treatment.

    Heck, just think of the "thrill" Chris Matthews would've got up his leg on that kind of deal.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesNessman View Post
    It has everything to do with liberal media bias, which the original poster was pointing out. I was just pointing out that it wasn't as subtle as the original post.

    Not only did the Obamas get a very good deal, they were assisted by now convicted felon Tony Rezko, who was under grand jury indictment at the time. And that makes p.3 news a day after the story breaks? Isn't that a major story deserving immediate front page attention?

    If it were a conservative politician who received that loan, assisted by a shady developer, I guarand@%#ty you he or she would be plastered all over the front pages of the liberal media, for weeks.

    FYI...I have purchased a house before, and getting a loan that big, at that interest rate with no points just doesn't happen without some preferrential treatment.

    Heck, just think of the "thrill" Chris Matthews would've got up his leg on that kind of deal.
    You do realize that this rings kinda hallow when the McCain't haven't paid taxes on a house in years and it receives roughly the same coverage. The reason is that people don't care anymore. We have been through the ringer as far as this stuff is concerned: Whitewater, Haliburton, Ken Lay, Keating 5... people are simply tired of manufactured intrigue about alleged financial deals. What we need to concentrate on is Obama's schooling when he was 7 and how it made him a terrorist.

    What was Tony Rezko's position at Northern Trust?
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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesNessman View Post
    Conservatives with this in their lap? Guaranteed front and center treatment.
    Front and center...like Cindy McCain's years of stealing pills from her own charity? Addiction is a disease, and one which I won't mock, but pilfering medicine meant for third world countries takes some real ****headedness. If Michelle Obama had such a history, the networks and papers would burst into flames.

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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Well, John McCain got a 0% credit card with a limit of $100,000 on it.

    So you'll excuse me if I don't get too terribly worked up over this. In fact, most of these scandals aren't worth getting worked up over.
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    Re: Here is a great example of subtle media bias for you folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by LesNessman View Post
    It has everything to do with liberal media bias, which the original poster was pointing out. I was just pointing out that it wasn't as subtle as the original post.

    Not only did the Obamas get a very good deal, they were assisted by now convicted felon Tony Rezko, who was under grand jury indictment at the time. And that makes p.3 news a day after the story breaks? Isn't that a major story deserving immediate front page attention?

    If it were a conservative politician who received that loan, assisted by a shady developer, I guarand@%#ty you he or she would be plastered all over the front pages of the liberal media, for weeks.

    FYI...I have purchased a house before, and getting a loan that big, at that interest rate with no points just doesn't happen without some preferrential treatment.

    Heck, just think of the "thrill" Chris Matthews would've got up his leg on that kind of deal.
    The Obama/Rezko land deal isn't a big story, because it isn't a big story. Obama bought a new house and Rezko bought the adjoining lot. They bought it from a college Professor who was moving out of town. The lot was to be developed by....shocker....a real estate developer named Rezko into townhomes. Obama later bought a 1/6th strip of the land from Rezko at Rezko's cost to provide his house with a buffer from what was to be developed. Nothing Obama did was illegal although in hindsight he should have bought the strip of land right away instead of waiting until Rezko was being investigated by the Grand Jury.

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